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Old 07-28-2010, 12:54 PM   #326
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

Frank needs to get an interpreter, he mumbles to much and I can't understand half of what he is saying
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:54 PM   #327
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:54 PM   #328
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Yeah I hate the credit card amendment, but I can see the reasons in favor of it.

It is, however, another amendment that is weakening this bill during markup, protests to the contrary not withstanding.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:54 PM   #329
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A full legislative session. Some states only meet once every year, two years or have already finished their session for this year to get around the original 90-day time frame.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:55 PM   #330
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True, but at least that TV can be auctioned off or repossessed if it turns out it was purchased on credit with money the individual did not have. Not so with gambling or investing. You can't buy stocks with a credit card AFAIK, at least the only options I've seen are debit, check, bank transfer, etc.
You can buy stock on credit pretty easily.... not with a credit card though.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:55 PM   #331
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ok here we go.....Bachus proposal

are you ****ing kidding me Bachman.........a;slkjdfl;aksjdfl;kjasd;lf
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:56 PM   #332
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

What if they are professional gamblers?
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:56 PM   #333
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o cmon child support payment bs
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:56 PM   #334
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Yeah I hate the credit card amendment, but I can see the reasons in favor of it.

It is, however, another amendment that is weakening this bill during markup, protests to the contrary not withstanding.
Again, most cc companies didn't allow deposits to gambling sites even when it was 100% legal. Everyone basically deposited through neteller or paypal. This isn't a problem at all.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:56 PM   #335
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

the dreaded Bachus amendment coming up very soon
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:57 PM   #336
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You can buy stock on credit pretty easily.... not with a credit card though.
Right right, but those types of transactions are regulated separately and have bounds and limits and stuff, I think?


Bachman introduces an amendment that nobody who is delinquent on child support payments can gamble online. I guess that is reasonable, seems really niche though, and is there any precedent for stuff like this in any other industry?
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:57 PM   #337
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

The people who can't pay their child support are probably the type of person I want spewing their money when I'm at the tables
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:57 PM   #338
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Bachman is a phony...She is not for people's liberties...

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Old 07-28-2010, 12:58 PM   #339
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Again, most cc companies didn't allow deposits to gambling sites even when it was 100% legal. Everyone basically deposited through neteller or paypal. This isn't a problem at all.
Its by far the least important of the negative amendments. I dont think it is a big deal either, but its marginally negative.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:58 PM   #340
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Right right, but those types of transactions are regulated separately and have bounds and limits and stuff, I think?


Bachman introduces an amendment that nobody who is delinquent on child support payments can gamble online. I guess that is reasonable, seems really niche though, and is there any precedent for stuff like this in any other industry?
yea, seems super random
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:00 PM   #341
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zomg protect the state lotteries
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:00 PM   #342
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

there's been no mention of the foreign player base. Are we going to lose the Euros due to protectionism?
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:01 PM   #343
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I'm think this is also what France did, yet they have dozens of foreign operators being given licenses.
player pools > your sovereign boundaries == more $$$ from foreigners
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no debit/credit cards.
credit cards makes sense. Debit cards? WTF
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:01 PM   #345
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

so bachman is amended to require affirmative notice to the sites that somebody is delinquent in child support, it seems. as amended, I think it is ok
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:02 PM   #346
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zomg protect the state lotteries
Are people behind on their child support allowed to do scratchers? We should move all state lottery to the internet so we can protect them from themselves.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:02 PM   #347
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credit cards makes sense. Debit cards? WTF
I didn't hear any mention of debit cards. Pretty sure the amendment was just addressing credit cards, the motive being that people shouldn't gamble on credit.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:02 PM   #348
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there's been no mention of the foreign player base. Are we going to lose the Euros due to protectionism?
Cannot be assumed simply because there has been no mention the foreign player base...

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Old 07-28-2010, 01:03 PM   #349
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Re: HR 2267 Markup, Wed. 7/28 10:00am

slugger5x misheard dblgutted. Only prohibits credit cards. Debit or prepaid cards wouldn't be prohibited.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:03 PM   #350
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credit cards makes sense. Debit cards? WTF
nobody said anything about debit cards. Don't know what slugger5x is talking about
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