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07-28-2010 , 03:28 PM

#501

dlk9s

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Originally Posted by Mission810

What was the Bacca amendmant that was defeated?

It's "Bachus."

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07-28-2010 , 03:28 PM

#502

danxxx1

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Can someone post a link to this please??????

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07-28-2010 , 03:28 PM

#503

ivey10k

grinder

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Would be great if we could see these amendments...I thought that no was on the overall bill...

Michael of NJ

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07-28-2010 , 03:28 PM

#504

dblgutted

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same one that was defeated earlier in the voice vote (opt-in)

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07-28-2010 , 03:28 PM

#505

eersfan

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 391

I think the first amendment said that states had to opt IN, not opt out. It was voted down.

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07-28-2010 , 03:29 PM

#506

sluggger5x

John Connor of poker

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,592

i'm hearing lots of no's. I thought it was a bad thing at first until Bachus said aye!

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07-28-2010 , 03:29 PM

#507

Rich Muny

Former PPA President

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Originally Posted by JPFisher55

I agree that litigation has risk. Skall put our odds equal to QQ v. AJ. I agree and these odds apply to the whole case after appeal; not to the trial court decision which IMO is 50-50. I don't trust or like trial court judges; just look at the AZ case preliminary decision.

I think we'd be around 50-50 once all is done, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were to lose one the way and have to win that one on appeal.

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I am disappointed that the PPA was not able to get any favorable amendments, like state opt out requires a state law, introduced or passed. At least the present amendments do not ruin the bill, but it is still a gamble. But IMO, it is a better gamble than litigation.

However, what happens if it does not become law and the GOP takes over one or both houses of Congress?

We actually did get quite a bit in some of the amendments. We wanted bipartisan support for the bill for the momentum we need and the amendments got that for us.

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07-28-2010 , 03:29 PM

#508

Zophar

adept

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 928

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Originally Posted by dlk9s

It's "Bachus."

There is a Bacca as well.

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07-28-2010 , 03:29 PM

#509

Bogglor

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This one is the Bacchus amendment I believe, not sure who the first one was.

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07-28-2010 , 03:29 PM

#510

ivey10k

grinder

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TE,

Is Director Pappas still in the room??? Or is he not allowed to be there during vote...

Michael of NJ

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07-28-2010 , 03:30 PM

#511

numberline

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Originally Posted by dblgutted

I'm saying that's how Indian casinos work, and Indian tribes have a much more powerful lobby than anyone else at the table.

Your logic might work for preventing operating non-Indian B&M casinos within state borders. But that doesn't explain how Indian casinos can prevent PLAYERS from going to other internet sites.

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07-28-2010 , 03:30 PM

#512

Rich Muny

Former PPA President

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 28,010

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Originally Posted by danxxx1

Can someone post a link to this please??????

It's in the OP.

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07-28-2010 , 03:30 PM

#513

NoahSD

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First amendment that got voted against was changing from opt-out to opt-in, I think. So we like that. Second was some other thing we didn't like and also didn't get through.

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07-28-2010 , 03:30 PM

#514

Bogglor

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Both defeated. Now here's the real vote.

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07-28-2010 , 03:31 PM

#515

eersfan

journeyman

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is this third one the actual bill they are voting on?

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07-28-2010 , 03:31 PM

#516

ivey10k

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 472

All I know is that when Frank says No...I know what side I'm rooting for...

Michael of NJ

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07-28-2010 , 03:31 PM

#517

NoahSD

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Originally Posted by eersfan

is this third one the actual bill they are voting on?

Think so

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07-28-2010 , 03:32 PM

#518

Rich Muny

Former PPA President

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 28,010

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Originally Posted by ivey10k

TE,

Is Director Pappas still in the room??? Or is he not allowed to be there during vote...

Michael of NJ

He's on the Hill today. I just talked with him not too long ago. I'm not if he's in the room right now, but he's definitely all over this.

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07-28-2010 , 03:33 PM

#519

JPFisher55

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Originally Posted by TheEngineer

I think we'd be around 50-50 once all is done, but I wouldn't be surprised if we were to lose one the way and have to win that one on appeal.

We actually did get quite a bit in some of the amendments. We wanted bipartisan support for the bill for the momentum we need and the amendments got that for us.

What did we get to improve the bill. We played good defense, but did we get any actual improvements other than those designed to make the bill more likely to pass the house? The full legislative session time period helps our legal argument that that the opt out language requires more than a governors decision, but it does not clarify or strengthen the opt out clause like we wanted.

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07-28-2010 , 03:34 PM

#520

seeingdouble

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are we winzing? i cant tells....

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07-28-2010 , 03:34 PM

#521

sluggger5x

John Connor of poker

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,592

41-22!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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07-28-2010 , 03:34 PM

#522

dlk9s

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AYES win 41-22

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07-28-2010 , 03:34 PM

#523

dblgutted

adept

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Originally Posted by seeingdouble

are we winzing? i cant tells....

bill passed committee as amended (1 step down, many to go)

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07-28-2010 , 03:35 PM

#524

Lampshade151

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\m/

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07-28-2010 , 03:35 PM

#525

eersfan

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All votes went our way fairly overwhelmingly.

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