Bachus' Amendment

"An even stronger prohibition, which we worked on in conjunction with several different groups"

"If it is the will of the committee to move this flawed bill forward, we should at least do everything we can to limit the damage, not just to US online gamblers but to their neighbors and fellow citizens."

"Since 2006 there [have been companies that ignored our laws, criminal enterprises that took US bets every day]. Whether you supported the UIGEA in 2006 or not, as most people did support it, every member of this body supports the rule of law. Hr2267 rewards illegal offshore casinos, the casinos that have spent tens of millions of $ lobbying Congress to overturn UIGEA. [any IG legalization bill should explicitly prohibit them]"

"The companies and their employees are simply unsuitable for license here. They violated the law and there's no reason to believe they won't again."

"[this amendment would prevent] any company that has [ever accepted US bets] on sporting events, POKER [emphasis mine], ... from entering the market"


Frank says:
"We are in general agreement on this" (!!)

Thank god cause I live in am apt complex. I'm endangering a lot of people with my reckless online pokers

I have no use for Spencer Bachus. He speaks of site operators ignoring US laws, how about the US ignoring the WTO?

Yeah, thats really really bad. I think those are my least two favorite politicians so I'm not very surprised.

Frank has been consistent in stating his belief that UIGEA banned online gaming, including poker.

Bacchus is taking down janitors and parking lot attendees today too. What a Maverick!!!

Janitors must be punished for their bosses errors!

I understand Bachus has a political appearance he needs to make, but this issue about the janitor seriously makes me consider the possibility that he is ******ed.

True, but up until now we didn't know if he supported explicitly prohibiting the reputable "offshore operators", right?

How are publicly traded companies over in Europe criminal enterprises?

Bachus...He is incredibly blind but he seems almost defeated as he speaks. If this is moving forward blah blah blah. He seems resigned to this moving and it's fun to watch him suffer through this.

It just seems to be an unnecessary and I don't know why he is trying to argue about this. Why not just take that part of the amendment out if he wants it approved?

oh, hi Mrs. Bachmann!

Bachmann thinks this class warfare??

Yeah his attitude seemed like he was for wiping out the current operators and starting over I'm sure some people cringed at that.

Bachman and Bachus think they r slick...their amendment essentially rules out everyone which is what Sherman picked up on...What do you think TE?

Michael of NJ

if obama played poker this wouldnt even be an issue anymore..

The problem with the licensing language regarding foreign sites is not what happens if/when a bill passes. If we design the bill right, there are plenty of places to play.

The problems are, given this bill is still a long shot for this Congress

A) We are going to lose a funding source. If Stars and Tilt can't get licensed, they will support the status quo. This is going to hurt the PPA and our chances in future Congress.
B) Hurts players as it makes it more likely that the big two leave the US and/or run their business short-term.

Smart amendment by Bachus, really bad that Frank supports it IMO.

Looks like they caught it and caused it to be withdrawn (to be fixed up).

Agreed.




Amendment offered by Baca of California

Amends the Johnson act to make sure tribes can participate in internet gambling.

Frank says they don't have jurisdiction over that act and dismisses it.

So under that amdendment PokerStars will be out?

It really sounds like they want to punish those who kept allowing Americans after UIGEA and reward those who gave us the boot. Party Poker must be grinning ear to ear right now if they consider them an unintentional offender.

Sweet if this is withdrawn (House is under construction, cant hear the hearing so following here)

Bachus is a clown...They submitted a faulty ammendment just like UIGEA was snuck through...Now they have to withdraw it...Bachus was embarassed and i hope the committee took notice...PPA needs to exploit this...We need to focus lobbying efforts to prevent the stupidity of the Bachus Bachman ammendment...Not that we aren't doing so already...If bachus gets that amendment through...he essentially strengthen UIGEA by banning everyone.

Michael of NJ

2nd Amendment proposed by Baca:

Require state and tribal gov'ts to opt-in to the scheme rather than opt-out. He is concerned about the impacts on state and tribal gaming, which states and tribes depend on for jobs and revenue.