Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation 2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation

08-29-2012 , 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by knircky
I think we and PPA has to publicly declare that the Reps are the enemies of our freedom and must not be voted for. We need to call them religious fundamentalist and declare that they are unamerican and call for anyone with a right mind to not vote for them.
yea, take that Texas Republican Representative Joe Barton, you unamerican enemy of poker and freedom!

er wait...
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
FYP. Otherwise, they'll likely need a compromise bill, like Reid/Kyl, to accomplish their anti-internet-gambling agenda. No bill passed = a proliferation of Internet gambling in many states. They may well take a poker-carveout bill compromise and call it a great victory.
I would think that the DiCristina ruling could potentially serve as a great political crutch for Repubs to reconcile a Reid-Kyl gambling ban + poker carveout with their broad anti-gambling platform plank. I don't expect very many Republicans would legitimately understand or support the DiCristina ruling, but it's made enough headlines where it could make a plausible public "excuse" for allowing a poker compromise.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
FYP. Otherwise, they'll likely need a compromise bill, like Reid/Kyl, to accomplish their anti-internet-gambling agenda. No bill passed = a proliferation of Internet gambling in many states. They may well take a poker-carveout bill compromise and call it a great victory.
That may be how it ultimately comes down, but the language itself is terrible for us IMO.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 11:16 AM
The PPA Weekly Update went out this morning: http://theppa.org/newsletters/2012/0...oker-08292012/
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 11:53 AM
I know this looks bad now, but I'm confident that Dean Heller will turn this thing around
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 12:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonkeyQuixote
..... keep in mind that if poker players from Kansas want online poker, they have to play the hand dealt them.

So, what if the Ks. Secretary of State has immigration issues, KANSAS has both a lottery and a B&M casino owned by the Lottery. Also, the Lottery participates in multi-state compacts.

Does it make any sense to poker players from Kansas to federally cut out the MOST likely path they can follow to get online poker in their State ?
There are five casinos in Kansas (who owns them I did not check out.) The ones in Horton, Mayette, Powhattan, and White Cloud are all suspiciously in connecting counties that border Nebraska and Missouri. Am I wrong to attempt a suggestion they are to attract out of state revenue?

It looks just the same as the Winstar on the Oklahoma side of the Red River. Texas doesn't need to do anything if Texans are content to travel an hour to play poker at a B&M.

I do not know if it makes sense or not. The appearance is they are fine if other citizens want to spend money in their state on gambling but not cool about it when their own major populations get involved. Perhaps that is the line for at least a multi-state compact?
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyPhelan
Agreed it is baffling how 1%ers Obama and Joe "3 feet in his mouth''Biden got more than 50% of the vote.Romney built his wealth with his own and investors money.Obama and Biden made theirs peddleing influence and doling out our tax
dollars to special interests.
It's not baffling how the other side received less than that amount of support?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyPhelan
I'm also baffled at the liberal drool I hear coming from poker players.Successful poker players make their money exploiting the weak,sharks eating the fish.But you want the govt.to take other peoples money and spread it around out of ''fairness''a philosophy you'd never practice in your chosen profession.
The 1% are evil takers but the sharks ballas and bosses making their money through bluffing trapping and bullying are more honorable.
Personally, I like a flattened payout structure.

I could find a way to support your vision, but I think I would have to support a winner-take-all scenario to remain true to it.

If you think it is just liberal drool out of the mouths of poker players, have a look at how the NFL and MLB are set up. It's pretty close to socialism. Then have a look at how the Armed Forces are set up. Each one of those would fail quickly without the safety nets in place.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 01:11 PM
poker gets **** on once again
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by knircky
Excuse me? Are we supposed to be like: "Dear Republicans, its ok for you to declare us idiots and your enemy, we'll vote for you anyway".

WTF man.

Its obvious that we must never vote republicans when it comes to poker. They are the reason for UIGEA and BF. And they want to totally prohibit online poker.

Your arguments is like letting someone shoot you cuz he misses sometimes. Thats just plain stupidity.

I think we and PPA has to publicly declare that the Reps are the enemies of our freedom and must not be voted for. We need to call them religious fundamentalist and declare that they are unamerican and call for anyone with a right mind to not vote for them.
yes sir
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 02:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by feihua
...It looks just the same as the Winstar on the Oklahoma side of the Red River. Texas doesn't need to do anything if Texans are content to travel an hour to play poker at a B&M...
Here's how far you can travel into Texas from Winstar in an hour at 65 mph:



Texans aren't content with the situation in our state.

From a 2011 poll by the University of Texas/Texas Tribune:
The support for gaming has grown since we last asked the question a year ago. In the new survey, 56 percent say they would allow full casino gambling in Texas.

Another 6 percent would expand it, but only to Indian reservations; 12 percent would allow an expansion only in existing locations (racetracks), and the rest would either leave the law alone, 11 percent, or ban gambling altogether, 8 percent.

That's a combined "no" vote of 19 percent.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 02:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyPhelan
Agreed it is baffling how 1%ers Obama and Joe "3 feet in his mouth''Biden got more than 50% of the vote.Romney built his wealth with his own and investors money.Obama and Biden made theirs peddleing influence and doling out our tax
dollars to special interests.

I'm also baffled at the liberal drool I hear coming from poker players.Successful poker players make their money exploiting the weak,sharks eating the fish.But you want the govt.to take other peoples money and spread it around out of ''fairness''a philosophy you'd never practice in your chosen profession.
The 1% are evil takers but the sharks ballas and bosses making their money through bluffing trapping and bullying are more honorable.
The republican philosophy of economics and most policies in general: comparing it to a poker tournament is a winner take all philosophy. Their would be no reason to ever play tight trying to cash.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 02:39 PM
lol at working with Republicans on internet gambling.


Excellent strat PPA
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by big gilute
im also baffled by this. i often wonder how the rich get low and middle class people to vote for them. i think it is because the avg american is pretty dumb
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19414600

Bachman, the actions of the tea party, trying to make gay marriage a national issue, dem damn mex'kins, etc. Don't forget that the active voting population in the US is a small fraction of the overall population of the US. You don't need anywhere near 50% to get people into office. Get the lowest common denominators in society fired up and you're 90% of the way there already.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 02:46 PM
I have to think that only a handful of Republicans cared enough to even bother pushing for this language to be part of the platform and Kyl was one of them.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 03:39 PM
I have say that Gary Loveman's comments saying he doubts a federal bill will pass this year concern me. He makes note of the dysfunction in Congress specifically as the major roadblock.

We have to hope and pray that Kyl and Heller can get their party behind a poker carveout this lame duck. I'm totally uncertain if they can. We gotta focus our efforts on Senate Republicans. We gotta.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 03:51 PM
^ Yes
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 04:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Do it Right
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19414600

Bachman, the actions of the tea party, trying to make gay marriage a national issue, dem damn mex'kins, etc. Don't forget that the active voting population in the US is a small fraction of the overall population of the US. You don't need anywhere near 50% to get people into office. Get the lowest common denominators in society fired up and you're 90% of the way there already.
do it right.... were they throwing the peanuts at the women because she is black? dispicable if true
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 04:06 PM
time to vote democrat.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LetsGambool
Yes, essentially if Romney wins since that's almost certainly coming with an R House and Senate.

EDIT: It doesnt help in the lame duck either way, we're going to need at least some Republican leadership on board to get something done and having a plank banning internet gambling in the GOP platform isnt going to help with that. I understand your point about a compromise bill, but if we pass a Reid/Kyl bill in the lame duck the headline isnt going to be "internet gambling ban strengthened" its going to be "Congress legalizes online poker".
Which is why we need to focus on changing the headline.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 04:42 PM
oh just noticed she was working for cnn. im a bit confused, were they racist or were they throwing them because she works for cnn? sure hope it is cus she works for cnn and not because she is black.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwperu34
Which is why we need to focus on changing the headline.
Yeah, dont think that's really possible. Not for a 2012 lame duck bill.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 04:49 PM
No matter what Romney says his religious views will play a big role in his decisions as president. If you have ever known a Mormon, they hate any form of gambling with a passion, and they think they know better than everyone else.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltmonkey2
No matter what Romney says his religious views will play a big role in his decisions as president. If you have ever known a Mormon, they hate any form of gambling with a passion, and they think they know better than everyone else.
Harry Reid is a Mormon.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltmonkey2
No matter what Romney says his religious views will play a big role in his decisions as president. If you have ever known a Mormon, they hate any form of gambling with a passion, and they think they know better than everyone else.
Romney cant do much to a lame duck bill. He'd be a problem for '13-'17 given his stated stance on online poker and, to a lesser extent, his feud with Harry Reid. We'd probably need a veto proof majority to get something done during a Romney presidency. The bigger worry, IMO, is what this does to our chances during the lame duck. That's probably our last, best short-term shot. We're going to win this fight long-term, but the alternative is state-by-state and pooling legislation 5 or 10 years out IMO.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote
08-29-2012 , 06:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sba9630
Here's how far you can travel into Texas from Winstar in an hour at 65 mph:



Texans aren't content with the situation in our state.

From a 2011 poll by the University of Texas/Texas Tribune:
The support for gaming has grown since we last asked the question a year ago. In the new survey, 56 percent say they would allow full casino gambling in Texas.

Another 6 percent would expand it, but only to Indian reservations; 12 percent would allow an expansion only in existing locations (racetracks), and the rest would either leave the law alone, 11 percent, or ban gambling altogether, 8 percent.

That's a combined "no" vote of 19 percent.
Speed limit is 75 once you get pass McKinney. That means you can get up to 84 before worrying. Map is pretty off. Didn't make it to down to Dallas. No need to go so deep into OK.

Texans don't have a problem with casinos. Government does.

EDIOT: 'scuse me....not McKinney (that is for Choctaw)....more around Sanger.....nevermind....I don't know what your post is about. Cheers.
2012 GOP platform calls for ban on online gaming, return to pre-Dec. Wire Act interpretation Quote

      
m