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10-11-2022 , 12:59 PM
This happens to me sometimes and i have no idea what to do.I started playing poker almost 10 years ago playing with my friends but back then i have no clue about ranges ev odds etc now after reading Harringtons-negranu books and now im reading the modern poker theory which is a tough book to read i have some knowledge about poker ok now lets go to the hand. Lets say im on the btn
with ATs and the villain is on the bb i raise to 3bb (everybody before folds) sb folds and the bb calls the flop comes J 4 4 rainbow according to the books this is a good spot for a cbet cause the flop is dry and with this flop its very hard to connect so the bb checks and i bet 4bb and then the bb raises to 10bb what the hell i do i know that probably he missed also but its tough for me to call or raise
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10-11-2022 , 03:27 PM
ATs with a back door flush draw would probably call a check raise, especially to a raise this small.

The reason it's a good board to bet with everything is because our range has a significant equity advantage, we have more better hands. What would they be raising here besides JX and 4X for value? If they raised that and 2 bluffs for every value hands it still wouldn't be that frequent because they have a very wide range with a lot of air (which is why they're at a disadvantage.) If they're raising often it means they're way out of line with low equity bluffs and we just have to call more.

When we bet 33% on this flop they have to defend 75% of their range, this will be very difficult, even if they're putting us in weird spots some times, our bluffs will still be immediately profiting.

10BB would be a very small raise OOP here, but even to that raise we only have to defend 50% of our range, we have all the best top pair, all the over pairs, 4X other pocket pairs, broadway BDFDs this shouldn't be that hard to do if they're bluffing at or above where they should.

If they aren't and are just raising wide for value, we can continue with hands getting the right price, fold everything else, and attack very frequently on turn and river when they don't raise because they no longer have any of their best hands in their range and are going to over-fold a ton
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10-11-2022 , 03:38 PM
So with ATs you think that i can call the raise and bet agressive the turn cause he has possible air? And also sometimes i do that with lets say 87s or 10-9of or A5s on a similar flop like K 6 2 rainbow or even a monotone i lead and then i get check raised so a solution is to call and then bet again on the turn a big amount?
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10-11-2022 , 04:26 PM
I would fold you have ace high and could easily be drawing dead.
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10-11-2022 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FingleTheGiant
I would fold you have ace high and could easily be drawing dead.
Yeah its this is an easy answer the problem is that i like to cbet with the intention to steal the pot i dont want to fold, sometimes i make it happen sometimes i dont but the times a got re raised i dont believe that the villain has something but i dont have also something btw i was playing online cash 2/5c and something very similar happend i dont exactly remember the positions but i had AKof the flop is 882 i bet the pot and i got raised then i shoved and the guy called with AT i mean i would make the same play with A5 or KQ etc and i would lose its pretty much 50/50 this is something i dont like and now after a lot of thinking i think that its better to go all in and not call to see the turn cause if the villain is oop he is going all in after that and then i have to take the tough decision so i dont know actually what to😂😂
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10-11-2022 , 07:06 PM
If you "like to c bet" and your opponent knows it they will; if they are good, take advantage of this knowledge and cr all good hands and a percentage of hands where you are ahead. You aren't the only one allowed to bet relying on the other person folding. In addition just as you aren't required to continue a bluff neither is your opponent.
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10-12-2022 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Polarbear1955
If you "like to c bet" and your opponent knows it they will; if they are good, take advantage of this knowledge and cr all good hands and a percentage of hands where you are ahead. You aren't the only one allowed to bet relying on the other person folding. In addition just as you aren't required to continue a bluff neither is your opponent.
this

c-betting is not meant to be done all of the time, it is meant to be done situationally. op says that it's a good flop to c-bet as the opponent has likely missed - villain knows that as well and can bluff raise at will. what you do with this is up to your reads
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10-12-2022 , 05:11 AM
Yeah i guess that in the table after cbetting 10times in a row they know that im a little loose so they try to take advantage of that maybe i should mixed it
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10-12-2022 , 08:31 AM
Boring answer, it depends!

So villain has raised you, with the information you have you proceed, do you think villain is bluffing, if so proceed with that info.

Id suggest looking at solver outputs to see as to what a perfect solution would do and then maybe take that information into a real game and use it in practice
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