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10-25-2013 , 07:37 AM
Oh hai dere. Does anyone know what a trap is?
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10-25-2013 , 08:19 AM
Also what is qtpi?


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10-25-2013 , 09:14 AM
Here's a good video imo


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10-25-2013 , 11:21 AM
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Also what is qtpi?
Short hand for: Cutie Pie

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Originally Posted by LirvA
Oh hai dere. Does anyone know what a trap is?
Girl who looks really good and still has a penis.
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10-26-2013 , 04:36 AM
One of those came up on my POF the other day. Very hot! 'Add to favourites' er ok why tf not!

So what do we think about straight people commenting on LGBTQ issues? A quote from my straight friend who doesnt like being too loud with her opinion:

'Yeah, it's just a bit more sensitive than that because the nuances of language, representation, and understanding are that much more complicated because it's such a nebulous community -- with race issues, it's a pretty straightforward "racism is bad" thing, and it's easier to spot racism (same with feminism), but when it comes to how various LGBTQ* groups ought to be treated, it changes a lot and there is a lot of internal conflict over how -for example- trans* people ought to be handled in the media. And if a cis straight person starts going off on one 'for the sake of' the trans* community, it becomes incredibly presumptuous bordering on condescending. It covers all sorts of stuff, like some people really don't like straight people using the term queer, because of it's historical use as a slur and stuff, so yeah - if I made a habit out of it, I would be, not unpopular, but certainly understood as someone lacking the personal authentic knowledge. But either way, I find LGBTQ* social justice stuff uber interesting'

I find that horribly pig-headed and an incredible attitude - not hers, but those in the LGBTQ community. The example given of people not liking straighties to use the word 'queer' boggles my mind in particular - why was the word chosen if afterwards some turn around and say 'only selected people are allowed to say it!'
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10-26-2013 , 06:37 AM
thx Protential!
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10-26-2013 , 06:38 AM
what about cis?


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10-26-2013 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LirvA
what about cis?


Someone whos gender identity is the same as their physical gender

Basically the opposite of transgender
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10-30-2013 , 02:52 AM
I don't know how to meet a guy :/
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10-31-2013 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by wazz
One of those came up on my POF the other day. Very hot! 'Add to favourites' er ok why tf not!

So what do we think about straight people commenting on LGBTQ issues? A quote from my straight friend who doesnt like being too loud with her opinion:

'Yeah, it's just a bit more sensitive than that because the nuances of language, representation, and understanding are that much more complicated because it's such a nebulous community -- with race issues, it's a pretty straightforward "racism is bad" thing, and it's easier to spot racism (same with feminism), but when it comes to how various LGBTQ* groups ought to be treated, it changes a lot and there is a lot of internal conflict over how -for example- trans* people ought to be handled in the media. And if a cis straight person starts going off on one 'for the sake of' the trans* community, it becomes incredibly presumptuous bordering on condescending. It covers all sorts of stuff, like some people really don't like straight people using the term queer, because of it's historical use as a slur and stuff, so yeah - if I made a habit out of it, I would be, not unpopular, but certainly understood as someone lacking the personal authentic knowledge. But either way, I find LGBTQ* social justice stuff uber interesting'

I find that horribly pig-headed and an incredible attitude - not hers, but those in the LGBTQ community. The example given of people not liking straighties to use the word 'queer' boggles my mind in particular - why was the word chosen if afterwards some turn around and say 'only selected people are allowed to say it!'
Reappropriating words is never easy. Sometimes it can be hard to tell if the person saying it is using it with the new meaning or the old meaning. And if you're the one saying it, it can be hard to tell if the people within earshot are going to interpret it using the new or old meaning.

I generally don't use the word queer. Not just because of the range of ways it could be interpreted, but because the modern definition is so vague as to be almost useless anyway.
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11-01-2013 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LirvA
I don't know how to meet a guy :/
Internet. Just be very safe and wary.

My bf and I just celebrated our 3rd anniversary and we met online, likely only way we would have met.
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11-02-2013 , 01:15 PM
I met my first/current bf online 3 months ago. It's rather easy and puts you in contact with guys you would never even know exist otherwise. Plus, it allows you to do some pre-screening before meeting up, instead of running into some guy in person and knowing nothing about him.
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11-02-2013 , 02:40 PM
Bf and i met online 3.5 years ago
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11-03-2013 , 03:46 AM
Tinder > pof >>> grindr imo
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11-03-2013 , 07:52 AM
um soo ....


squirrel nut zippers are a really great band and the brian sezter orchestra was cool too and like stray cats is awesome and stuff and like I'm like a bottom and stuff and like sometimes I dress very girly feggy and Metallica did that one song and it was ok but usually I wear really baggy pants and stuff and idk maybe make a point to not come across as feggy in every day public whatever, like Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds' album Murder Ballads is ****ing amazing, and on the dating sites I've gone on I've posted pictures of me um like non girly feggy with the baggy and maybe I'm doing it wrong and need to take pictures feg'd out or something and will be able to meet one that way or something and that would be better????
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11-03-2013 , 12:07 PM
What were you on when you wrote that, and how much of it?



Just be yourself LirvA. Whatever that means for you. Don't worry about attracting a specific number of guys. Worry about attracting the right kind of guys, and you do that by being honest about who you are and what you're looking for.
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11-03-2013 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
What were you on when you wrote that, and how much of it?



Just be yourself LirvA. Whatever that means for you. Don't worry about attracting a specific number of guys. Worry about attracting the right kind of guys, and you do that by being honest about who you are and what you're looking for.
All of this.

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11-03-2013 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
What were you on when you wrote that, and how much of it?



Just be yourself LirvA. Whatever that means for you. Don't worry about attracting a specific number of guys. Worry about attracting the right kind of guys, and you do that by being honest about who you are and what you're looking for.


lol I was on some bowls of weed and no sleep for a long time and like 10 hours sleep in 3 days or something.

um, I'm kinda and shy and stuff or something maybe
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11-03-2013 , 11:17 PM
Being shy is fine, just be honest.

Hell, be upfront about being shy and this is your first time dating or trying to date a guy. Some guys will be like "lolw/e" but others will think that's sweet.

Like I said, just be you. If YOU aren't comfortable with you, it's going to be very difficult to find someone you are going to click with, because instead of legit clicking with them you are going to be constantly trying to be w/e you think they want you to be.

Maybe find a friend to double date with at first until you get your groove.
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11-05-2013 , 01:33 AM
No one knows I'm gay until I come out to them (at least so far), so I'm not dressing in any way that makes people think I'm not straight. And I'm terribly shy and socially awkward. The only people I can remember meeting that are more shy than I deserve a diagnosis for that.

But on my online dates I was myself and it worked out great. I found guys who liked me for who I was, not who I could pretend to be online.
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11-05-2013 , 07:19 PM
Illinois marriage bill passed both houses and will be signed. Now I just need a husband to gay marry.
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11-06-2013 , 01:15 PM
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Illinois marriage bill passed both houses and will be signed. Now I just need a husband to gay marry.
I think you and Landon would make a great couple.
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11-15-2013 , 01:27 AM
God damn I ****ing hate women. There is no point EVER in EVER ****ing liking one, EVER. All it ever leads to is me feeling like a ****ing pathetic loser. They make me want to cut my ****ing dick and balls off, shove them down my own throat, choke on them, and then blow my ****ing head off with a shotgun.

I. want. to. ****ing. die.
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11-15-2013 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wazz

So what do we think about straight people commenting on LGBTQ issues?
Jumping in late on the discussion here, and haven't read everything in the thread yet, but this question jumped out at me.

For the record - I'm a straight male ally.

Asking the question above is very dangerous. If, as GLBTQ, you want to be treated with equality, IMO you should not put yourself in a category where your orientation is definitive of you as a person.

You're a person, I'm a person.

I'm straight, male, brown hair, blue eyes, Caucasian. Those are attributes. I'm a person and it's my mind and how I think that matters.

You're <gay/straight/bi>, <male/female/trans>, <brown/black/blonde/yellow/rainbow/plaid> hair, etc etc etc. Those are attributes. It's your mind and how you think that matters.

If you adopt the mindset - or even create the appearance of adopting the mindset - of "well you're not like me so you can't have an opinion", you turn the attribute into a definition, and create a division, instead of a bridge.

I do not see how any good can come of that.
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11-15-2013 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo
Jumping in late on the discussion here, and haven't read everything in the thread yet, but this question jumped out at me.

For the record - I'm a straight male ally.

Asking the question above is very dangerous. If, as GLBTQ, you want to be treated with equality, IMO you should not put yourself in a category where your orientation is definitive of you as a person.

You're a person, I'm a person.

I'm straight, male, brown hair, blue eyes, Caucasian. Those are attributes. I'm a person and it's my mind and how I think that matters.

You're <gay/straight/bi>, <male/female/trans>, <brown/black/blonde/yellow/rainbow/plaid> hair, etc etc etc. Those are attributes. It's your mind and how you think that matters.

If you adopt the mindset - or even create the appearance of adopting the mindset - of "well you're not like me so you can't have an opinion", you turn the attribute into a definition, and create a division, instead of a bridge.

I do not see how any good can come of that.
I'm appreciate all of the straight allies out there and I agree that straight folks should not be foreclosed from discussing LGBTQ issues, but I think that the, "hey man, why can't we all just be people" attitude expressed in your post is pretty naive, imo.

Those "attributes" that you so casually hand waive away do matter. I bet that you've never had to worry about losing your job or being kicked out of your house by your parents because of your sexuality. Probably never had to stop yourself from holding your gf hand in public because you happened to be walking through an area where a bunch of gay bashings had recently occurred. You've never had to sit by while your state holds a vote that determines whether or not it views your relationship as legitimate (and decides that it isn't). These are experiences that almost every gay person has had and that almost no straight person has had or ever will have and, whether you like it or not, the fact that the experience of being gay in the US at this time is fundamentally different that being straight in the US at this time means that gay folks are going to interact with the world and view it differently than straight people.

So thanks for being an ally, and I hope that you keep participating in the conversation, but please don't continue to fall victim to the fallacy that your experience as a straight/white/male represents a universal prism through which to view the world...
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