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09-03-2022 , 02:47 AM
Hi all! I want to post proof of a WPN scam. It happens in this poker room at all levels superusers/soft/administrators and you will soon understand why. I play poker professionally, more than 7kk hands, this is my main source of income for the last 14 years. What kind of scammers I have not met at the poker tables teamplay, multi-accounts, mining it's all kindergarten in comparison with these guys. Let's get started.
So February 2021 I play nl5000 its real money not chips or tournament and this happens

Yatahay Network - $50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3 : http://www.holdemmanager.com
SB: $5,000.00 (100 bb)
BB: $5,425.50 (108.5 bb)
UTG: $3,476.77 (69.5 bb)
CO: $5,000.00 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5,947.00 (118.9 bb)
SB posts $25.00, BB posts $50.00
Pre Flop: (pot: $75.00) Hero has Qh Kc
2 folds, Hero raises to $143.75, SB raises to $575.00, fold, Hero raises to $1,275.00, SB calls $700.00
Flop: ($2,600.00, 2 players) 5d 8s 2s
SB checks, Hero bets $1,325.00, SB calls $1,325.00
Turn: ($5,250.00, 2 players) Jc
SB checks, Hero checks
River: ($5,250.00, 2 players) 7h
SB checks, Hero bets $3,347.00 and is all-in, SB calls $2,400.00 and is all-in
Results: $10,050.00 pot ($2.76 rake)
Final Board: 5d 8s 2s Jc 7h
SB shows Ah Qc: (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 75%, Flop 88%, Turn 93%)
Hero shows Qh Kc: (High Card, King)
(Pre 25%, Flop 12%, Turn 7%)
SB wins $10,047.00

and here are his stats, this is a TAG regular, who really don’t like showdown..


I’m have very tight 3bet and 4bet range year ago, I do occasionally make exceptions for very aggressive preflop players but that's not even the point here. What hands does my opponent lose with AQ? TO ALL except KQ, AQ, A10. Any pocket pair, AK, AJ, QJ, J10, 109, 98, 87, 76, 65, 54. This superuser idiot player forgot to go allin on river, but bank was too big and he just call. And this is not a missclick, he think long time before call.
That hand was only begging…
The next week or two I was blocked by a poker room for no reason. They accused me of using auto-landing scripts, which I didn’t even know existed on WPN. In general, they ask me to play on camera, arranged a check, my game was clear. They start forcing me to admit that I’m using seating script. I didn’t admit for a long time and don’t admit now I can say it in the court on lie detector easy, but at that monent they gave me an ultimatum - or I say that they are right or my account is blocked with confiscation of funds! I had in their room about $40,000 I was literally forced to write that I agree with them and they are always right and I don’t have complaints to them and my account was unfrozen right after that. Here what happens next.. this is my hand history from end of 2020 to February 2022



You see this huge EV loss start. It’s right after they unfreeze me and it’s going and going, bigger and bigger, super strange coincidence? That means if a poker room arranges such an EV spin with cheating soft, it is obvious that there are superusers who not only see your cards but also win much more often when you go all in with much bigger chances vs them but you loose almost always.
Last year was disaster for me, that hand what I showed is only first hand, I have a lot of scam hands and they all are on WPN only.. my poker game was crushed I have many problems with mental health, my middle profits go down from 20-50k per month to 0-1k on WPN.
I wrote to their game integrity with the thought that maybe they don’t know what is happening in their room and they can help me, but from our communication everything fell into place. We chat for a long time, they didn’t want to check my poker hand, and say about EV something like “your EV loses it’s only your EV loses” What chances of EV run like that do you think? One time on Pokerstars I have bad month, I loose AA-KK 13 times in a row on preflop, I wrote this in my old blog, chances of this ~1:50000000 but they are huge compare with my EV in Pokerking.
WPN canceled sending hand histories to ALL players, you can do that before my long talk with them but after you can’t request hand histories. It’s another coincidence? Maybe, I can’t check the exact date when they stop giving hand history. I’m only remember that couple months before our chat they give it to everyone. So in that I’m not sure.
I know that this people from Costa Rica(main WPN office) can be dangerous, if “something happens” with me WPN is only reason.
I don’t know where to go with my case, how to explain this in police or in court, but I think players must know this.
Save your money guy’s and good luck!
PS: Sorry for my bad English.
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09-03-2022 , 03:27 AM
Once a site blackmails you that you either sign you agree with them or they will steal your money the moment you get access to your money withdraw all of it. Don't play games you believe; likely correctly, are cheating you.
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09-03-2022 , 05:16 AM
have you some proof of they telling u sign something etc?
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09-03-2022 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsCodeDD
have you some proof of they telling u sign something etc?
I’m not sign nothing, only my emails with them, where I wrote 5-7 times that I don’t understand why they block me I change nothing in my game, where guarantee that you don’t block me forever with no reason. At last email about unfreeze my account I wrote something like “you always right” and that’s it.
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09-06-2022 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Hybridpoker
i can't believe you play cash on ACR go play on GG
I don’t play there now, thinking to go play offline. On GG big rake and cap..
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09-06-2022 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Enostra
Hi all! I want to post proof of a WPN scam. It happens in this poker room at all levels superusers/soft/administrators and you will soon understand why. I play poker professionally, more than 7kk hands, this is my main source of income for the last 14 years. What kind of scammers I have not met at the poker tables teamplay, multi-accounts, mining it's all kindergarten in comparison with these guys. Let's get started.
So February 2021 I play nl5000 its real money not chips or tournament and this happens

Yatahay Network - $50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3 : http://www.holdemmanager.com
SB: $5,000.00 (100 bb)
BB: $5,425.50 (108.5 bb)
UTG: $3,476.77 (69.5 bb)
CO: $5,000.00 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5,947.00 (118.9 bb)
SB posts $25.00, BB posts $50.00
Pre Flop: (pot: $75.00) Hero has Qh Kc
2 folds, Hero raises to $143.75, SB raises to $575.00, fold, Hero raises to $1,275.00, SB calls $700.00
Flop: ($2,600.00, 2 players) 5d 8s 2s
SB checks, Hero bets $1,325.00, SB calls $1,325.00
Turn: ($5,250.00, 2 players) Jc
SB checks, Hero checks
River: ($5,250.00, 2 players) 7h
SB checks, Hero bets $3,347.00 and is all-in, SB calls $2,400.00 and is all-in
Results: $10,050.00 pot ($2.76 rake)
Final Board: 5d 8s 2s Jc 7h
SB shows Ah Qc: (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 75%, Flop 88%, Turn 93%)
Hero shows Qh Kc: (High Card, King)
(Pre 25%, Flop 12%, Turn 7%)
SB wins $10,047.00

and here are his stats, this is a TAG regular, who really don’t like showdown..


I’m have very tight 3bet and 4bet range year ago, I do occasionally make exceptions for very aggressive preflop players but that's not even the point here. What hands does my opponent lose with AQ? TO ALL except KQ, AQ, A10. Any pocket pair, AK, AJ, QJ, J10, 109, 98, 87, 76, 65, 54. This superuser idiot player forgot to go allin on river, but bank was too big and he just call. And this is not a missclick, he think long time before call.
That hand was only begging…
The next week or two I was blocked by a poker room for no reason. They accused me of using auto-landing scripts, which I didn’t even know existed on WPN. In general, they ask me to play on camera, arranged a check, my game was clear. They start forcing me to admit that I’m using seating script. I didn’t admit for a long time and don’t admit now I can say it in the court on lie detector easy, but at that monent they gave me an ultimatum - or I say that they are right or my account is blocked with confiscation of funds! I had in their room about $40,000 I was literally forced to write that I agree with them and they are always right and I don’t have complaints to them and my account was unfrozen right after that. Here what happens next.. this is my hand history from end of 2020 to February 2022



You see this huge EV loss start. It’s right after they unfreeze me and it’s going and going, bigger and bigger, super strange coincidence? That means if a poker room arranges such an EV spin with cheating soft, it is obvious that there are superusers who not only see your cards but also win much more often when you go all in with much bigger chances vs them but you loose almost always.
Last year was disaster for me, that hand what I showed is only first hand, I have a lot of scam hands and they all are on WPN only.. my poker game was crushed I have many problems with mental health, my middle profits go down from 20-50k per month to 0-1k on WPN.
I wrote to their game integrity with the thought that maybe they don’t know what is happening in their room and they can help me, but from our communication everything fell into place. We chat for a long time, they didn’t want to check my poker hand, and say about EV something like “your EV loses it’s only your EV loses” What chances of EV run like that do you think? One time on Pokerstars I have bad month, I loose AA-KK 13 times in a row on preflop, I wrote this in my old blog, chances of this ~1:50000000 but they are huge compare with my EV in Pokerking.
WPN canceled sending hand histories to ALL players, you can do that before my long talk with them but after you can’t request hand histories. It’s another coincidence? Maybe, I can’t check the exact date when they stop giving hand history. I’m only remember that couple months before our chat they give it to everyone. So in that I’m not sure.
I know that this people from Costa Rica(main WPN office) can be dangerous, if “something happens” with me WPN is only reason.
I don’t know where to go with my case, how to explain this in police or in court, but I think players must know this.
Save your money guy’s and good luck!
PS: Sorry for my bad English.
I dont know the specifics of all of your other hands where you claim to be subject to super using etc etc but from a Hand history standpoint his call is fine and justified and if anything your hand is played horribly.

You 4bet OTB and SB calls, you bet 50% on 8,5,2 which is fine. So your repping strong pairs, however you have no sets. On the turn you check which I don’t understand given flop action. So when you check the turn your range becomes 10s, AA, AQ, AK maybe 99.

River is an 8, now you have 0 sets, 0 straights, and slow played AA and hands that want to check back river. So for value on this river you have JJ and AA and an insane amount of bluffs. When Villian blocks AA and your not bluff shoving AK on the river as a bluff he has a snap call and you lose.

This hand may seem like a “super user” but it clearly isn’t, it’s just a reg that is playing well and ran into a call spot. He flat AQo OOP so he’s likely to call off a bluff with this hand OTR given preflop action.

I have played against you a lot on ACR and I your EV isn’t anything to do with super users (IMO) unfortunately.
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09-07-2022 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Koshko
I dont know the specifics of all of your other hands where you claim to be subject to super using etc etc but from a Hand history standpoint his call is fine and justified and if anything your hand is played horribly.

You 4bet OTB and SB calls, you bet 50% on 8,5,2 which is fine. So your repping strong pairs, however you have no sets. On the turn you check which I don’t understand given flop action. So when you check the turn your range becomes 10s, AA, AQ, AK maybe 99.

River is an 8, now you have 0 sets, 0 straights, and slow played AA and hands that want to check back river. So for value on this river you have JJ and AA and an insane amount of bluffs. When Villian blocks AA and your not bluff shoving AK on the river as a bluff he has a snap call and you lose.

This hand may seem like a “super user” but it clearly isn’t, it’s just a reg that is playing well and ran into a call spot. He flat AQo OOP so he’s likely to call off a bluff with this hand OTR given preflop action.

I have played against you a lot on ACR and I your EV isn’t anything to do with super users (IMO) unfortunately.
This superuser not reg, he folds too much hands before showdown. What insane amount of bluffs I have? On this board in 4betpot almost any hand have something, ok let’s pretend that he knew that I’m bluff on 100% just calculate how many hands he beat. My 4bet range are very tight AA-KK, sometimes AK, QQ. KQ it’s really special 4bet vs guy who 3betting a lot. Ok he can don’t knew that, even if we go to all connectors like 67-JQ, any poket pair, AK he loose to all except KQ and A10.
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09-07-2022 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Enostra
This superuser not reg, he folds too much hands before showdown. What insane amount of bluffs I have? On this board in 4betpot almost any hand have something, ok let’s pretend that he knew that I’m bluff on 100% just calculate how many hands he beat. My 4bet range are very tight AA-KK, sometimes AK, QQ. KQ it’s really special 4bet vs guy who 3betting a lot. Ok he can don’t knew that, even if we go to all connectors like 67-JQ, any poket pair, AK he loose to all except KQ and A10.
You have 345 hands on this player. To assume anything you are according you need 10s of thousands of hands on a player across multiple hands.
I’ve already explained the HH there really is no evidence here at what your saying.

Please show/explain some more examples.
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09-07-2022 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Koshko
You have 345 hands on this player. To assume anything you are according you need 10s of thousands of hands on a player across multiple hands.
I’ve already explained the HH there really is no evidence here at what your saying.

Please show/explain some more examples.
I think in previous posts it’s more than enough.
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10-24-2022 , 05:37 PM
I create this topic from my second account, forgot that I have this.. people you really don’t care? You have some contacts with poker pro players? They must see this topic
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11-03-2022 , 11:35 PM
I agree completely with Koshco.

candidly, this is a poor example if you believe ACR is scamming people.
where did he wrong? not calling your river bet, getting 3 to 1?
further, you came over the top of a blind raise, so he knows your range is much wider, than say if you would have raised an early position raiser.

I have not played for that kind of money, quite frankly, but heck, I have seen people in your situation, raising with all kinds of hands, so he beats enough of your hands to justify a call on the river.

further, you ask why he forgot to shove? well, of course, he does NOT want to get involved because you then likely have a snap call, and you might be sitting there with AK, and he is hoping if anything it does check check.
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11-08-2022 , 07:43 PM
Joey Ingram brought up instances of Eastern Europeans and Brazilian accounts(among others) cheating in MTTs and Colluding. He showed proof on how they would load up an MTT and all seat together and then punt off to 1 guy and the ROI% would be upwards of 60^% for some of these users and they had no account history of much note previously... The colluding he seemed less clear about.

That was back some time ago. I am not sure on the status of any of this now. He contacted Nagy, which I never followed up on.

They seemed to have tried clean up their image but they're not sanctioned by any real Gaming Commission of any real reputation?

All that was old news(I do watch millionaire poker players on there all the time playing for millions and they don't seem frightened(goto Twitch), so I assume they would do their research) Assume... It appears GG, Stars attracts a Majority of the high stakes players though!
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12-16-2022 , 08:56 AM
ACR just banned in Holland! I’m so glad that I lived in that country half a year and talk with their gambling regulator.. USA next guy’s!)
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05-28-2023 , 09:34 AM
ive been playing 10's of thousands of hands and while i'm not a pro i've been playing poker for 35 years. I have so much experience in poker and every time I am ahead especially to a Russian or some random player NOT from America, I lose about 72%. Now that might not seem like a lot, until you consider that i'm ahead by 9 to 1 or minimum 2 to 1. ei AK vs AQ and i flop a King and no queen on flop. its the same over and over, when i'm ahead by a lot and lose to random runner runner straight or flush. so i figured well maybe if i start doing the same thing and it never happens in reverse, very rare but, usually it will happen to another USA player if I do get lucky. I never deposit a lot of money there because I want to see how the RNG is and see if I can withdraw any money, which i cant. If you check my sharkscope youll see that early on like my first real deposit I was winning then all of the sudden when I deposit a lot, I just cant see to win. Im not a pro by any stretch of the imagination but im not scrub either. I win home game poker at a very high win rate (around 40% in a game of 9 or more players (that should be 11% on avg)). I also make the final table of tournament poker games at the local Sacramento Poker casinos at about 29% winning it all 4 times and chopping about 10 times. you can check my sharkscope on ACR my handle is scottyskilz and you will see how it looks on your own. A lot of times sharkscope doesn't show you how they off load money on cash games. Those account can easily be rigged. for example ive seen these "lucky" players have unrealistic stats for that kind of play. they shouldnt be playing $1 or .50 micro while up $20k. I also use to play at pokerstars before black friday i was up over $8k and loving every bit of the amount of bad players shoving with bottom pair and not hitting a miracle runner runner like at ACR. Just dont deposit a lot of money there, its just not worth it

NOW THEY TOOK AWAY BANK DEPOSITS AND NOW THEY TOOK AWAY CHAT............****ING SHADY AS ****
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06-14-2023 , 09:04 PM
I've played on ACR and the Former Soviet Union Players are just better. I beat them regularly but if I'm in a punting mood they will take me down. More often than not it's the Americans who come in after a session with nothing but Russians that gets me destroyed cause adapting to the pool. I've rarely seen a Russian shove A2suited into what is obviously AKsuited(me) in fact I just about never see that but with an American(I am trying to think of 1 incident and not 1 comes to mind). I get trigger happy and get drawn on by some Americano who wants to gamble and I can't say no to such juicy odds. I can almost always promise you an American will gamble a FD or SD if it's low stakes. And then some Americans are really good, nitty as well. Depends on the day, the one you are playing. Some are the best on Earth.

The Russians learned to respect me when I am playing and I've regularly stacked them at microstakes, sometimes they overfold with me and I know they know I'm playing them nitty cause they're nitty as hell. I ask them why they even play poker at Micros and they say they do it cause $800 a month is good income in their nation.

I assume they're GTO and studying regularly. . . Colluding? I doubt it on a large scale as I feel they are in competition with one another.

As far as Medium and High stakes I've seen the craziest plays on earth on ACR done by Russian players. Go sit in on a high stakes room and watch. Obviously they play differently when you're playing 20k pots. And the type of player is uniquely different.

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Originally Posted by ScottySkilz
ive been playing 10's of thousands of hands and while i'm not a pro i've been playing poker for 35 years. I have so much experience in poker and every time I am ahead especially to a Russian or some random player NOT from America, I lose about 72%. Now that might not seem like a lot, until you consider that i'm ahead by 9 to 1 or minimum 2 to 1. ei AK vs AQ and i flop a King and no queen on flop. its the same over and over, when i'm ahead by a lot and lose to random runner runner straight or flush. so i figured well maybe if i start doing the same thing and it never happens in reverse, very rare but, usually it will happen to another USA player if I do get lucky. I never deposit a lot of money there because I want to see how the RNG is and see if I can withdraw any money, which i cant. If you check my sharkscope youll see that early on like my first real deposit I was winning then all of the sudden when I deposit a lot, I just cant see to win. Im not a pro by any stretch of the imagination but im not scrub either. I win home game poker at a very high win rate (around 40% in a game of 9 or more players (that should be 11% on avg)). I also make the final table of tournament poker games at the local Sacramento Poker casinos at about 29% winning it all 4 times and chopping about 10 times. you can check my sharkscope on ACR my handle is scottyskilz and you will see how it looks on your own. A lot of times sharkscope doesn't show you how they off load money on cash games. Those account can easily be rigged. for example ive seen these "lucky" players have unrealistic stats for that kind of play. they shouldnt be playing $1 or .50 micro while up $20k. I also use to play at pokerstars before black friday i was up over $8k and loving every bit of the amount of bad players shoving with bottom pair and not hitting a miracle runner runner like at ACR. Just dont deposit a lot of money there, its just not worth it

NOW THEY TOOK AWAY BANK DEPOSITS AND NOW THEY TOOK AWAY CHAT............****ING SHADY AS ****
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