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Is this guy cheating? Is this guy cheating?

09-25-2021 , 04:56 AM
Was playing a guy who won 1300bb online on a popular site playing 1/2. Started off six handed and dwindled down to 3 by the end. Average stack size was 250bb. I will say this group is like a classic home game, some good players some not so great.

The reason I think he is cheating is due to the fact he only played 175 hands, won 86 of them and won 1300bb in less than 2hrs. That stat I cant wrap my head around. No one except him and one other guy who ended up a couple bb were up by the end of the night.

His playing style was pretty bad. He bet pot whether in position or out of position. And overbet when he had a really good hand.

I will post some hands in here. Some players definitely punted but it seemed like he always knew what to do and all the big hands involved him. He never lost an all-in.



02:37 Villian collected 626 from pot with Flush, Js High (combination: J♠, 9♠, 6♠, 5♠, 2♠)
02:37 Villian shows a 2♠, 5♠.
02:37 Randy calls 241 and go all in
02:36 Villian bets 241 and go all in
02:36 River: J♠, 4♦, 6♠, 9♠ [3♦]
02:36 Randy calls 48
02:36 Villian bets 48
02:36 Turn: J♠, 4♦, 6♠ [9♠]
02:36 jsepansk folds
02:36 Randy calls 16
02:35 Villian bets 16
02:35 jsepansk checks
02:35 Flop: [J♠, 4♦, 6♠]
02:35 Villian calls 5
02:35 110y6 folds
02:35 jsepansk calls 5
02:35 dre folds
02:35 Eric folds
02:35 Randy raises to 5
02:35 Villian calls 1
02:34 110y6 posts a big blind of 1
02:34 jsepansk posts a small blind of 1

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Villian collected 405 from pot with Three of a Kind, 4's (combination: 4♣, 4♥, 4♠, K♣, Q♥)
02:19 Villian shows a 4♣, 4♥.
02:19 dre calls 135
02:19 Villian bets 135
02:19 River: Q♥, 4♠, J♠, K♣ [7♦]
02:19 dre calls 34
02:19 Randy folds
02:18 Villian bets 34
02:18 Turn: Q♥, 4♠, J♠ [K♣]
02:18 dre checks
02:18 Randy checks
02:18 Villian checks
02:18 Flop: [Q♥, 4♠, J♠]
02:18 Eric folds
02:18 Randy calls 20
02:18 Villian calls 20
02:18 110y6 folds
02:18 jsepansk folds
02:18 Villian folds
02:18 dre raises to 20
02:18 Eric calls 5
02:18 Randy raises to 5
02:17 Villian calls 1
02:17 110y6 posts a big blind of 1
02:17 jsepansk posts a small blind of 1

02:43 Villian collected 926 from pot with Full House, 4's over J's (combination: 4♦, 4♥, 4♠, J♣, J♦)
02:43 River: 10♦, 4♥, J♦, 4♠ [10♣]
02:43 Villian shows a 4♦, J♣.
02:43 Randy shows a 3♦, K♦.
02:43 Villian raises to 417 and go all in
02:43 Randy raises to 417 and go all in
02:43 Villian bets 92
02:43 Turn: 10♦, 4♥, J♦ [4♠]
02:43 Villian calls 40
02:43 Randy raises to 40
02:43 Villian bets 12
02:43 Flop: [10♦, 4♥, J♦]
02:43 Villian calls 5
02:43 jsepansk folds
02:43 dre folds
02:43 Randy raises to 5
02:42 Villian calls 1
02:42 110y6 folds
02:42 jsepansk posts a big blind of 1
02:42 dre posts a small blind of 1
02:37 Randy shows a 9♥, J♥.

03:20 Villian collected 168 from pot with Pair, 9's (combination: 9♣, 9♠, K♥, J♠, 10♠)
03:20 Villian shows a 9♣, 10♠.
03:20 Villian calls 56
03:20 110y6 bets 56
03:20 Villian checks
03:20 River: 9♠, 3♦, 2♣, K♥ [J♠]
03:20 Villian calls 22
03:20 The admin approved the player jsepansk participation with a stack of 400.
03:20 110y6 bets 22
03:20 The player jsepansk requested a seat.
03:20 Villian checks
03:20 Turn: 9♠, 3♦, 2♣ [K♥]
03:20 110y6 calls 4
03:20 Villian bets 4
03:20 Flop: [9♠, 3♦, 2♣]
03:20 110y6 checks
03:20 Villian calls 2
03:19 dre folds
03:19 110y6 posts a big blind of 2
03:19 Villian posts a small blind of 1

03:24 Villian collected 816 from pot with Two Pair, 6's & 5's (combination: 6♦, 6♥, 5♦, 5♣, A♦)
03:24 Villian shows a A♦, 5♦.
03:24 110y6 checks
03:24 Villian checks
03:23 River: 6♦, 4♦, 6♥, 3♠ [5♣]
03:23 Villian calls 204
03:23 110y6 bets 204
03:23 Villian checks
03:23 Turn: 6♦, 4♦, 6♥ [3♠]
03:23 Villian calls 153
03:23 110y6 raises to 153
03:23 Villian bets 51
03:22 Flop: [6♦, 4♦, 6♥]
03:22 Villian calls 44
03:22 jsepansk folds
03:22 dre folds
03:22 110y6 raises to 44
03:22 Villian calls 7
03:22 jsepansk calls 7
03:22 dre raises to 7
03:22 110y6 posts a big blind of 2
03:22 Villian posts a small blind of 1
03:20 110y6 shows a 5♥, 4♦.

03:31 Villian collected 711 from pot with Pair, 3's (combination: 3♦, 3♠, K♥, J♥, 7♦)
03:31 River: 5♦, 3♠, J♥, 7♦ [K♥]
03:30 Villian shows a 4♦, 3♦.
03:30 jsepansk shows a A♠, Q♦.
03:30 Villian calls 247
03:30 jsepansk raises to 247 and go all in
03:30 Villian bets 108
03:30 jsepansk checks
03:30 Turn: 5♦, 3♠, J♥ [7♦]
03:30 jsepansk calls 54
03:30 dre folds
03:30 Villian bets 54
03:30 jsepansk checks
03:30 dre checks
03:30 Flop: [5♦, 3♠, J♥]
03:30 Villian calls 36
03:30 jsepansk calls 36
03:30 dre raises to 36
03:29 110y6 folds
03:29 Villian calls 8
03:29 jsepansk raises to 8
03:29 dre posts a big blind of 2
03:29 110y6 posts a small blind of 1


**Calls a raise with J6 that**

03:46 Villian collected 134 from pot with Pair, 6's (combination: 6♠, 6♣, K♣, Q♦, J♥)
03:46 Villian shows a 6♠, J♥.
03:46 Villian checks
03:46 110y6 checks
03:46 River: 2♥, 4♥, 6♣, Q♦ [K♣]
03:46 Villian calls 58
03:46 110y6 raises to 58
03:46 Villian bets 18
03:46 110y6 checks
03:46 Turn: 2♥, 4♥, 6♣ [Q♦]
03:46 dre folds
03:46 110y6 calls 6
03:46 Villian bets 6
03:46 dre checks
03:46 110y6 checks
03:46 Flop: [2♥, 4♥, 6♣]
03:46 dre checks
03:46 110y6 calls 2
03:46 Villian calls 2
03:46 dre posts a big blind of 2
03:46 110y6 posts a small blind of 1

03:53 Villian collected 1211 from pot with Full House, Q's over A's (combination: Q♠, Q♣, Q♥, A♠, A♥)
03:53 Villian shows a Q♠, A♠.
03:53 dre calls 587 and go all in
03:52 Villian raises to 587 and go all in
03:52 dre raises to 200
03:52 Villian bets 69
03:52 dre checks
03:52 River: 6♥, Q♣, A♥, 2♠ [Q♥]
03:52 Villian calls 11
03:52 dre bets 11
03:52 Turn: 6♥, Q♣, A♥ [2♠]
03:52 Villian checks
03:52 dre checks
03:52 Flop: [6♥, Q♣, A♥]
03:52 Villian calls 7
03:52 dre raises to 7
03:52 110y6 folds
03:52 Villian calls 2
03:51 dre posts a big blind of 2
03:51 110y6 posts a small blind of 1
03:51 dre hand is 7♥, K♥
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09-25-2021 , 10:42 AM
Quote:
The reason I think he is cheating is due to the fact he only played 175 hands, won 86 of them and won 1300bb in less than 2hrs
This seems more like a card rush than a cheeting. He had some strong hands in a short time. The other players didnt give him enough credit and pay him off like a total suckers. Nothing unsual here.
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09-27-2021 , 05:45 PM
I don't think this is enough evidence of anything. They are extremely rare but I've had >1kBB sessions in a similar span of time. It's probably actually easier for certain types of bad players to have a monster session since their variance will be higher than a good player's due to getting involved in more large pots than they should.
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11-08-2021 , 04:40 AM
i don't know about the guy
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11-08-2021 , 02:57 PM
What method could the person be using to cheat in your opinion? If you feel like there was collusion you can flag it to the site and they can at least review the hands.

Last edited by SharkytheFish; 11-08-2021 at 02:59 PM. Reason: typo
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11-09-2021 , 06:59 PM
Take it for what its worth.
I have seen countless threads like this as it relates to online poker.
How many threads like this for live poker ?
I could count the latter on half of 1 hand.
Moral of the story ?
Play at your own risk.
Collusion on line is very easily accomplished if the reward is bigger enough.
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11-12-2021 , 02:13 AM
175 hands? THis has to be some sort of joke. Anyone can go on a rush in 175 hands. If he can do it with a decent sample size at least a few thousand hands then i would start asking around with other players that actually played against him. I don't think asking people here who never played with him would have any idea if the guy is cheating or not. Ask other players in the game. He obviously not very good so I would say its short term variance and would continue playing with him. I played with a guy that was up about 5k at 200nl playing and 3b almost 100% of hands after 8 hrs ( a lot more then 175 hands) and people were saying he was cheating defying math and leaving but me and few other regs stayed and next few hrs we felted him and then he complained we were cheating haha. BUt point is if they are bad keep playing unless you see them working with other players or they are making some calls with T high taking down all in pots that dont make any sense and continuing to do it. Then you might have something on the guy. But looks like its just variance on the bad players side. They gotta win once in awhile or they would never play.
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11-12-2021 , 06:08 AM
Damn, this game looks insane.
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11-12-2021 , 10:10 PM
LOL. He just sees flops.... and you let him get value to the turn. It's your fault.
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12-11-2021 , 05:33 PM
How much is the big blind?
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12-13-2021 , 04:31 AM
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