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Originally Posted by Henry17
CPP as a benefit? As a poker player you have to pay both portions and I'm pretty sure you never get back what you contribute. I could be wrong but avoiding CPP has always been an argument for incorporating.
TFSA is a big benefit to give up-- especially for younger individuals-- and it was one of the main reasons I decided to start filing again.
Wrt the value of CPP contributions, this here presents a good starting point
http://canadianmoneyforum.com/showthread.php?t=10291.
The discussion concludes that the value of the CPP contributions vs not contributing depends upon the rate of return you could get elsewhere. But that as a short answer, yes, it is worth it.
However they miss several things in their analysis.
First, the CPP plan is a defined benefit plan, and thus the value of contributing is much higher, the closer you are to retirement.
Second, they base their analysis upon the current, historically high, contribution rates. This overstates the cost of the CPP benefits.
Third, they don't properly value the many ancillary benefits of the CPP. Ie survivor benefits to your spouse, children, disability benefits if you can't work to retirement, etc.
In summary, yes, in my professional opinion for most people their CPP contributions are well worth it.
Wrt to the larger issue of the taxation of poker winnings/income, I have the following observations.
First, the model of performers is a good one to emulate. Many have erratic incomes, and unconventional expenses. Many will have some form of formal incorporation to reflect this, and which allows them to allocate their income as both personal and corporate as appropriate. Many others will operate as a non-incorporated sole proprietorship which allows for the deduction of many expenses that would not be eligible for a regular taxpayer.
Second, there are so many tax credits, exemptions, RRSP allowances etc, that really one does not really pay a significant % of one's income at lower incomes. Really, if you are a pro making 50k with no other income, you could easily fully disclose your income and pay virtually no tax, all fully legit.
Third, if you are making big money, $200k per year perhaps. Well, eventually the gov't will get wind of it and they will give consideration to the source. Far more likely that they think you are an unsavory criminal than a talented poker player.
Anyways, all just my opinions. But I leave you with this thought....
To my great surprise, it seems that a lot of people on this thread have not done the the calculations to assess even the financial pros and cons of their options as relates to their own personal situations. And if that lack of care in your financial matters continues, it will be the biggest -ev of your life. Seriously, don't be such financial fish. You are smart poker players - be smart in your finances!