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All in with 73o and checking it down with AA's.  Inverse GTO or Exploitive play? All in with 73o and checking it down with AA's.  Inverse GTO or Exploitive play?

04-28-2024 , 01:11 PM
On the surface these decisions look silly.

Then when we account for the player being exploited; a medium stack that's backing down from all ins; or checking with AA because you know the opponent will all in to try to steal pot by last card.

These poor GTO decisions suddenly become wiser; so what are your examples of 'bad GTO but good exploitive play'?
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04-29-2024 , 05:02 AM
Going all in with 73o is neither exploitive nor GTO. Its just a massive punt
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04-30-2024 , 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dude45
Going all in with 73o is neither exploitive nor GTO. Its just a massive punt

If you're taking the pot, it's a proper exploit.

You want to take pots that don't belong to you; how you do that depends on game type and if you're near bubble (and other factors)

Last edited by Lucy's Fur; 04-30-2024 at 06:21 AM. Reason: added context
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04-30-2024 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucy's Fur
If you're taking the pot, it's a proper exploit.

You want to take pots that don't belong to you; how you do that depends on game type and if you're near bubble (and other factors)
Well then just shove all in with every hand. That will win you a lot of pots
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04-30-2024 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dude45
Well then just shove all in with every hand. That will win you a lot of pots
I primarily play sit n' go's.

There are situations it's applicable, and if you're trying to one size fits all any poker hand; you already lost IMO.
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04-30-2024 , 08:41 PM
There are push/fold charts that are indeed valuable for sit n go’s, especially once stacks become short. These are mathematically solved to optimize EV. There is really not much room for debate about these shove ranges. They do vary based on position and stack size, but they are mathematically optimized. I’d suggest getting hold of some and learning them; it should help your SNG game.
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04-30-2024 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stremba70
There are push/fold charts that are indeed valuable for sit n go’s, especially once stacks become short. These are mathematically solved to optimize EV. There is really not much room for debate about these shove ranges. They do vary based on position and stack size, but they are mathematically optimized. I’d suggest getting hold of some and learning them; it should help your SNG game.
The chart changes as you dwindle down players.

Exploits depend on the player and situation.

Some considerations

- Bubble play

- Stack sizes

- nemesis behavior and traits

- position

If you blindly follow chart; you're not playing wisely.
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