I have opted to not say much regarding the issue and just let the thread vets decide what the rule/standard is. But I will say that regarding the above comment, the angle undoubtedly exists far more in the opposite direction. I’m aware you said angles on both sides, I’m not ignoring that- I’m simply saying that my side is far more open to being angled/freerolled if this were allowed to be called an overbook.

If I book his bet by quoting it I very clearly believe our bet is action unless I’m told otherwise. I think that the onus is on the OP to close their action if they book it elsewhere, and even if you guys came to the determination it’s not- it is at the very least his responsibility to call out the overbook. Otherwise the person quoting (me) is wide open to being angled. If I lose my side, I lost the bet, if I win my side it’s called an overbook 4 days later and I’m still out the bet.

Obviously there needs to be a decision made amongst you guys about what the rule should be going forward. In the meantime- @stevesax I am willing to call the bet $100 and be done with our issue regardless of what the thread decides going forward. Fwiw, this was going to be my offer to you before you asked me to no-action it for a $200 swap and then told me our action is no longer good (something I presume is still the case) for declining to take what I thought was an unfair deal. If this deal isn’t acceptable then again I’m obv okay with whatever’s decided. Sorry for clogging thread

WAnt 300
Golden knights

I did but that did not include RonnyHighRoller, Zeta or Driver. I haven't been paid anything yet but the payments for me are not due to start yet anyway.

Zeta and Ronny should get paid ASAP.

Aces I know you owe Bron but I don't know when or how he is going to confirm that figure. Apparently there might be another dispute there. I figure it's between you and bron at this point.

I tend to agree with this tbh. The only "angle" you could pull off from Jabba's side is that you force Steve into more on his side than he wanted. On Steve's side he has the potential to freeroll (not necc saying he would do that) Jabba by only bringing up the overbook if he loses.

booked bacon, gl

Hmm.

bron asked if i would be the 3rd party to review both aces and bron's lists from that tennis week. i said sure. bron never sent me the list. all he gives me are long winded text messages but i see no progress/action taken on his part.

i get the feeling he thinks by stalling and waiting it out we will get desperate and start asking for less than the full amount owed

closed above

ducks -.5 400

adding

5685 K.Caldwell-Pope rebounds over 6½ +100/-130 600
5687 K.Caldwell-Pope points+rebounds over 22½ +105/-140 1000

will swap for stuff that ends tonight

Want 300
Wright state
IONA
Loyola
Seton hall
Nova
San Diego state
SFA
Bama
Montana

@driver

byu +2.5
colgate +7
central ark +6.5

300 each, i owe you 100 in swaps

Isn't that true for every overbook scenario though? Which is why it's on the booker to not overbook in order to protect themselves?

Bron and me had been betting through pms. I was told on 1/31 that I would be paid in no more then 2weeks. During this time he decided that he would AUTO BOOK all my basketball bets. On 2/10 he sent me a pm saying that he is having trouble getting to the money and has bigger balances to be paid off but we are getting closer "Feel free to take whatever you want". On 2/19 he sent me the following and is claiming this clears him of AUTOBOOK at this point and that he made it "ABUNDANTLY CLEAR"
("ok that's fine line is correct

sorry man I haven't been betting so I haven't been checking 2p2 the last week or so, I've just been moving mountains to get my bigger balances paid

I just saw your message that says you're hurting for the balance, sorry to hear that bro - let me see what we're at and talk to some people and maybe I can work something out for you here pretty quickly

if you're keeping track too, what do u have us at before this bet?")

The total at this point was $1325 or so. Since the 2/19 the total is now around +$3500 my favor. He is claiming that he only owes me around $1300 or so and by him sending that pm and me putting the title of my PM "last wage" it turned off AUTOBOOK. He said between 2/19 and now he hasnt been online checking 2p2 but I specifically remember his PM's being full one day I tried to send a bet in last week or so and it didn't go through but the next day I tried again and it was able to go through not to mention ive seen him online. I'm sorry if im cluttering the thread I understand its irrelevant to you guys since the bets weren't placed in the thread. I'm just trying to figure out if im in the wrong here or getting wronged. Thanks-kolton

GOLF! Arnold Palmer Tournament Matchups

Rose over Day -111/-105
Fleetwood over Rory 100/-117
Hatton over Matsuyama 113/-132
Watson over Stenson 126/-148
Reed over Leishman -113/-103
Aphibarnrat over Sned 141/-166
Burns over Keegan 131/-154

200 each

Maybe so, I dunno. I guess my take is that its much more likely the person who gets overbooked will realize it because the person overbooking them probably didn't realize it in the first place or the wouldn't have done it. As such you allow the person getting overbooked a freeroll situation if you allow them to void it after they lose.

On the flip side if its action stands I don't get how anyone gets freerolled. If thats the actual rule then people will be more careful as well and these situations won't come up much and you prevent the freeroll/angle.

Maybe I'm missing something, but if our goal with the rules is to prevent angling it seems like voiding the bet where it's unclear if the orignal persons list was still open creates more opp to angle.

1st intermission want:

Knights to win
Knights +1.5

100

No offense but we told you back in January to bet in thread for transparency sake. You don't deserve to be going through this but continuing to bet with someone who isn't paying their debts doesn't seem that smart either.

I am sure you are getting wronged but you made some decisions that allowed him to essentially freeroll you.

Want NCAA Thursday:

Rhode Island/Oklahoma Over 158 for 120
Tennessee PK -666 for 440
Gonzaga/NC Greensboro Over 136 for 100

Duke/Iona Under 157 for 60
Penn/Kansas Under 146.5 for 60
NC State/Seton Hall Under 157.5 for 100

San Diego St +4 for 270
Stephen F Austin +11 for 130
Davidson/Kentucky Under 143 for 540

Alabama/Virgiinia Tech Over 141.5 for 90

devils -309/+253 100
devils -1.5 +120/-140 100

want

heat -3.5 3q only 500

heat -7 2h (full game ml pick'em) 600

sharks live ml 500

sharks live -1.5 700

will swap for a spread or total for tomorrow or golf

Early tomorrow:

Oklahoma 1k
Oklahoma under 300

Booked

Tennessee 300

Want 100/200

Thursday
Oklahoma (Will die on this hill one more time)
Penn
Iona
Seton Hall
Radford

Friday
Providence
Wichita St.
Arkansas
West Virginia
Michigan St.
Charleston
Missouri
New Mexico St.
Syracuse

Golden Knights +512/-700 2nd intermission
50

Closed

My main concern is not the bigger stakes regs, it’s the guys who don’t ever want double their max in action and are just not comfortable taking it on.

What happens if I see I’m overbooked and don’t post or comment. I have rockets over 236 vs the warriors and at half it’s 46-44 and I pop in and say hey just notice this for the record this is an overbook and is no action. Or it 76-74 and I let it ride and hope for a double dip since the odds have swung in my favor.