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I am a little confused on something regarding line moves/timestamps. Let say you book someones bet at 1:00 and put the line in your post but omit the juice. So you put +7.5, 200. The line happens to move at 1:00. The previous line was +7.5, -116 and the new line was +8 even.

My thought process is that because we can't tell if the line actually moved before or after they posted and they clearly pulled lines and posted +7.5 but omitted the juice that it should be booked at +7.5 -116 and not +8. My reasoning is that they clearly looked the lines up as they were posting and so I can assume the line was +7.5 -116 for the seconds they were posting or else they would have posted +8. We can't know for sure if the line moved before or after they posted because there are no seconds to the posts or the line moves.

Is there a thread standard for this?

For clarity here is my want post:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=61243

and here is the post where the bet was booked where he added lines in:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=61246

The game in questions is the St. Joes game. Is it booked at +7.5 +116 or +8 ev?

I’ve always done exact time stamp. Not sure what is right or standard it rarely matters but obv there are times it does so a standard should be set if there isn’t one already.

I think exact time stamp eliminates confusion even though line very well could of been the first one at exact second of booking.

Thread standard is to use +8

But i agree with wichita it should be +7.5 -116 in situations like these if its posted. Sometimes you book it and the line changes within the minute and you dont even know. I dont think theres anyway angle here?

What if the line moved while I was looking at the other lines? What if the game landed on 8? Imagine the fun!

I’d say it’s 8. Thread standard is to go with the sbrodds timestamp unless both parties agree on the alternate line and vig

Thanks for chiming in everyone. I think we need a hard and fast rule and using timestamp seems like the right rule as it eliminates the ambiguity if we don't have one already. If he had just said booked then obviously it is +8, my only confusion was the fact that the line was posted which brings you into that grey area where you really don't know what line he booked it at. Had he posted 8 then it's obviously 8 but the fact 7.5 was posted and we really don't know whether his post or the line move happened first results in a potential trouble spot that we should probably decide on before some worse case scenario occurs.

With March madness starting I’ll book futures of any sport. quote my post and I’ll confirm wager. Lmk if you are using 5D or Pinnacle

Duke vs Field to win national championship +833 (5dimes) $100

actually there is a way to angle so it should be 8 imo

Pinnacle Odds to win NCAA Title:

$25 each

Butler +21733
Alabama +21733
Seton Hall +21733
Creighton +21733
Virginia Tech +16299

Pinnacle Props

NC State to win Midwest Region +7564 for $50
Florida to win East Region +1832 for $100
Providence to win West Region +3779 for $100

Virginia vs Field to win NCAA Tournament +596 (pinny)
$500

to win NBA Finals:
Field vs Cleveland Cavaliers -758 (5d) $400

book NCAA futures

pass on the cavs future

I'm not aware of the timestamp being more precise than minute by minute. So, as an example, if I book at 6:58 pm, and there are two lines at SBR at 6:58 pm, I use the first one (before the line change). Same thing goes if someone books me under the same example. Usually its just a change in vig, but a change in the point spread/total could cause a major problem.

C'mon Duke, don't you understand that Zeta only books futures where he is the -100000 chalk?!?!

Heh, I think it should be the second one.

CBB 12pm tip:

Central Michigan
CMU/IPFW under
$200 each

Totally indifferent tbh, but i just try to remain consistent without any solid rule in place.

Maybe we can get a vote or something as to whether it’s the former or latter line that is posted during the same minute on SBR?

Splitting hairs a little, but a problem nonetheless.

closed on CMU total

just want Central Michigan +6 $200

also want NBA:

Thunder/Kings under $200
Heat/Blazers under $400

Want Cavs to win Central Division -250 to win 400

Looks like pretty simple case for the line which changed the same minute.
If actioned booked without specific line, example " booked" or "booked for 200" then it is the same as stating booked with closing line for this minute based on sbr.
I action booked and specific line provided that it is pretty obvious the person booking action checked the line, so the vig if missed should be verified and adjusted .

I'm 99% sure I saw 7.5 and missed the vig. I still think the line is clearly 8. There is no way to know when the line changed vs the timing of the post and all hell breaks loose if the game falls on 8. Otherwise I'm paying vig if I lose and have to get to 9 to win the bet (talking generally here).

Earlier this season I booked a bet for 500 and posted the line at +107 and when we get to numbers there is a $35 discrepancy as the other person pointed out the line changed to even during my post. This was the first time I was learning about it, but can't argue with the timestamp.