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12-01-2008 , 09:35 PM
Why isnt the new software available for other skins? cannot be that hard to implement their pictures on your (pacifics) software?
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12-01-2008 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GrafhamGrinder
The problem with pacific's software is that it was designed by a 15 year old who dosnt know anything about poker or how to design stable software. They need to stop trying to fix an inherently flawed by design peice of software and go back to the drawing board. Its like pacific have a car which was designed with no engine and they are wondering why it wont move, so to try and fix the problem they are repainting it. Where as if they got in someone who know's wtf they are talking about he would tell them exactly what they need.

The current update for pacific it is a ****ing joke. They have been on about an update for months now and they finally release a pathetic peice of software that has barley changed and dosnt even address main issues. I can imagine this update was the lowest priority for the programmers who were busy doing other more lucrative jobs, and after having the job for several months finally got around to adding a pot and 1/2 pot button.

Its seems the main problem with pacific poker is that the guys who are in charge only look at their short term profits, they see the software makes them money and why should they change it, why should they spend tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of dollars on getting brand new software when the current one already makes them money.

I wont go on about repeating all the problems with the software because you can go through this thread and find them all mentioned several times. But I will mention the main issues for me.

1.) The constant software crashes. I am losing money everyday when pacific crashes and pacific are losing money from me in rake becasue alot of times I will finish my session when the software crashes. So they might be losing on average an extra $20-30 rake from me a day? Multiply that over the year and then multiply that by all the players that suffer crashes and also quit and your looking at alot of $$$. This dosnt even take into account the lost revenue from players who suffer a crash and never play on pacific again.

2.) The bloody reservation list. When you reserve a seat it reserves all the seats at the table, now if someone is away from their computer it reserves all the seats and they never sit down, so it seems for ages that all the seats are unavailable. I dont know if its because there are several people on the reservation list who are not paying attention but alot of the time all the seats on a table are reserved for ages and then the table dies because no1 else can sit down. Several times a day I am told a seat is available on a table, I accept the seat only to find that no1 else is on the table because its died. How much money pacific are losing everytime their poor reservation list kills a table I dont want to speculate but I bet its a fair amount.

Teh End!
He is so right with this post that it hurts.
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12-02-2008 , 09:06 AM
GrafhamGrinder, while I understand your frustration, it's important to realize that the last update revolved almost entirely around reducing the number of crashes and disconnections to a minimum.

All the stuff you and others have mentioned were mentioned by me as well when I first got here (a whooping 2 and a half weeks ago). This is the stuff we're working on now. These are stuff that should have been on Pacific ages ago. Nothing you or I can do about that though.

Pacific poker won't be perfect next week. It probably won't be perfect when the next update is up either, but the general direction is to get there, as close as we can. To start catering for MSNL-type grinders who expects a specific standard in their software.

Hopefully I'll get enough patiance and feedback from you guys to help in the process.

Yuv.
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12-02-2008 , 07:52 PM
Why are only the 5/10HU tables currently limited to two?
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12-02-2008 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
GrafhamGrinder, while I understand your frustration, it's important to realize that the last update revolved almost entirely around reducing the number of crashes and disconnections to a minimum.

All the stuff you and others have mentioned were mentioned by me as well when I first got here (a whooping 2 and a half weeks ago). This is the stuff we're working on now. These are stuff that should have been on Pacific ages ago. Nothing you or I can do about that though.

Pacific poker won't be perfect next week. It probably won't be perfect when the next update is up either, but the general direction is to get there, as close as we can. To start catering for MSNL-type grinders who expects a specific standard in their software.

Hopefully I'll get enough patiance and feedback from you guys to help in the process.

Yuv.
How can it be that "last update revolved almost entirely around reducing the number of crashes and disconnections to a minimum" when every single respons from the support (vip and regular) says that there is NO problems with disconnects and if we experience crashes it our own fault (firewall etc)?

How can you fix a problem thats nonexistent accourding to the personel?
If they knew the software sucked monkey balls why are we constantly beeing lied to in support answers?
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12-03-2008 , 11:15 AM
Yuv,

When will we get the time bank? I cannot see another version without this feauture, it would just be ridiculous to release a new version without it...
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12-03-2008 , 11:26 AM
Every upside has its downside.
Better software, less bugs, timebank, and all the stuff we want... might convince players from other sites to come and play on pacific.
Still i hope the software will improve a lot. Crashes cost a lot of money, and no mucked hands on the river costs info.

And again Yuv... What about the software on luckyace and littlewoods? Will that be updated too?
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12-03-2008 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bajsmannen
How can it be that "last update revolved almost entirely around reducing the number of crashes and disconnections to a minimum" when every single respons from the support (vip and regular) says that there is NO problems with disconnects and if we experience crashes it our own fault (firewall etc)?

How can you fix a problem thats nonexistent accourding to the personel?
If they knew the software sucked monkey balls why are we constantly beeing lied to in support answers?
if they said yes its our fault then they would have to give out refunds for disconnections during pots.
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12-03-2008 , 02:50 PM
I aggree sumthing should be done about the waiting lists that jam and force tables to die out bc 1 plyr did not take his seat and the tables gets locked up.
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12-03-2008 , 05:11 PM
Hey guys. Some replies for your posts. Sorry in advance if some aren't as satisfying as you'd expect. Doing the best I can and I'm forwarding pretty much every single comment to the proper department.

Farmir, there's still some in-house analysis done on the current software. I can't tell for sure when they upper management release it to LA and LittleWoods. It's miles away from being my call.
If you guys want to play for Pacific in the meantime and want to transfer money to accounts, feel free to PM about it. I can probably help speed up the process and help with the capped amount.

bajsmannen, honestly, I can't control everything in this rather large organization. I'm sure some of the disconnections were a local issue, but regardless, I did forward your message to support team manager. On the bright side, at least we're finally taking care of the disconnections.

Timebank is in development right now, I can assure you that. Obviously I'm in no position to commit to a specific date, but it is in progress.

Also, I did initiated a few talks about the waiting list issue. It def shoot up in the priority. We will find a temporary solution for this as soon as possible.
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12-04-2008 , 12:33 AM
This is swell that at least concrete efforts are going into improving the software. I must say ive never doubted 888's intentions are good and I think its more lack of efficiency. They do have live support and responses are usually pretty fast.

Faster cashout options would be nice too. (instadebit for Canadians would be great)

Though this was funny and will show just how ridiculus the crashes are:The other day my windows program was going threw updates and started listing the problems ive had since its been running. fwiw ive been playing on 888 network for bout 4 months, while scrolling threw the list one prog had 530 occurred errors try and guess with one.....
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12-04-2008 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fishpielemonsole
if they said yes its our fault then they would have to give out refunds for disconnections during pots.
TBF they do. I was refunded $500 and given $75 for the inconvenience. I just gave them hand details from their game history.

I did threaten to cash out my roll though.
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12-04-2008 , 06:02 PM
fix note taking so it doesnt jump always while you type plz
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12-04-2008 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ahnuld
fix note taking so it doesnt jump always while you type plz
lol, that tilts the hell out of me
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12-05-2008 , 04:14 AM
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fix note taking so it doesnt jump always while you type plz
+1

The line feed does not work either when taking notes.
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12-05-2008 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ahnuld
fix note taking so it doesnt jump always while you type plz
+1

And plz fix cash game tables irrationally jumping up and down in the lobby window too.
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12-05-2008 , 11:56 AM
Does the handgrabber freeze for anyone else when trying to load? I'm having massive problems even seeing the cash game tables and when I try to reinstall, it says the install file isn't a valid Win32 application
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12-05-2008 , 12:44 PM
Now handgrabber is opening it, but it's not showing any of the cash games...
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12-05-2008 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
+1

And plz fix cash game tables irrationally jumping up and down in the lobby window too.
+1 very irritating
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12-05-2008 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
+1

And plz fix cash game tables irrationally jumping up and down in the lobby window too.
they're jumping depending on how you have the lobby sorted by.. if the pot size changes, then it changes obv. other stuff as well..
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12-05-2008 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBarracuda
they're jumping depending on how you have the lobby sorted by.. if the pot size changes, then it changes obv. other stuff as well..
Well, I have them sorted by stakes and there is no logic in them changing their place all of a sudden. Them jumping around lead to me clicking/opening wrong tables all the time.
This is only a mild annoyance, so fix it after you have got the darn software to stop crashing all the *** time.
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12-05-2008 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pummi81
Well, I have them sorted by stakes and there is no logic in them changing their place all of a sudden. Them jumping around lead to me clicking/opening wrong tables all the time.
This is only a mild annoyance, so fix it after you have got the darn software to stop crashing all the *** time.
Hey Pummi. I do agree that fixing the crashes was the number one priority for a good reason, but as far as I know, the new update lowered them to a minimum. There was one encounter of a crash that I forwarded to the appropriate people, but personally I've played quite a bit as a test without crashes.

Now it's all about the "mild annoyance". There should be no annoyance whatsoever. It's a process, but it starts with you guys alerting me about 'little' stuff like the notes issue or the table popping logic.

On a different note, everyone who downloaded the new PCP client and emailed us are now welcomed to register to the freeroll. It is named "2p2 restricted" and is scheduled for tomorrow at 20:00 GMT.
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12-05-2008 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
Hey Pummi. I do agree that fixing the crashes was the number one priority for a good reason, but as far as I know, the new update lowered them to a minimum. There was one encounter of a crash that I forwarded to the appropriate people, but personally I've played quite a bit as a test without crashes.
Well, that sounds great.
But when luckyace and littlewoods players get their hands on that new crashfree software?
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12-06-2008 , 02:46 AM
Something ive noticed with the old software is that if you have itunes running its more likely to crash.

You also need to make sure that the developers are using holdem manager and hand grabber when testing the new software as i think its the interaction between these peices of software running on vista that is the problem.
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12-06-2008 , 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GrafhamGrinder
Something ive noticed with the old software is that if you have itunes running its more likely to crash.

You also need to make sure that the developers are using holdem manager and hand grabber when testing the new software as i think its the interaction between these peices of software running on vista that is the problem.
I also noticed when i don`t resize the tables, i almost dont get any crashes at all..

And i think the filters should be updated, so a choice can be made between the different stakes, instead of a range of stakes..

for example i only want to see 1/2 and 2/4, instead of a range of 1/2 to 5/10
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