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06-14-2017 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by driverseati
I want to second the fact that I believe Sports is 100% correct here, and I haven't fully checked, but I think Wichita and Bacon are as well. Therefore I'm not even sure how to get to the bottom of this, because they all appear to be correct.

All I'm saying is that *someone's* balances are not matching up entering and leaving a week and they are not speaking up.

I will also comment that I for example missed a bet with AP the other week, just forgot to record it, I was the loser ($300ish) and had to pay that immeadiately and add to my overall balances (it might have even been this week, in fact I believe it was as my balance went up even later when we realized it and caught it, not even a part of this fiasco)

Magically that never happens to a positive I might have (or hasn't yet, where a $300 win shows up out of nowhere)

Honor amongst thieves etc, but this is getting ridiculous
I sent you a pm about this but checking people's numbers pre/post swap should be pretty easy to figure out what happened. Go back and check the net for each of us (i did this for myself this morning just to make sure it wasn't me that effed up). For example the 355 swap in question with me and you and sports did not change my net which you can see from the pre/postswap lists. I also had no bets in thread since that late May swap until ufc this weekend so I think at least my numbers are accurate. I also think part of the problem is that i got my balances that week to zero before sports posted missing that swap and then I never checked thread again until now basically. That resulted in me not catching sports87 error until now. Hopefully that helps.

If your net changes someone else's net had to have changed and that is the easiest way to figure it out.
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06-14-2017 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by driverseati
I love the thread and think generally everyone is a pretty good person (we've hopefully run out most of the bad apples)

Also, after thinking it over, this is on me to fix for the last two weeks.

I will post my current numbers (for this week) today

And then unfortunately I might have to unwind a bunch of swaps, or none, I just don't know yet until I look at everything

tl:dr we all need to do a better job with numbers (me included especially)
You don't need to unwind swaps just add the amount to people's balances if you find mistakes. Unwinding old swaps creates a nightmare scenario but just adding balances should be fairly easy if you can actually find the accounting mistakes.
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06-14-2017 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by WichitaDM
You don't need to unwind swaps just add the amount to people's balances if you find mistakes. Unwinding old swaps creates a nightmare scenario but just adding balances should be fairly easy if you can actually find the accounting mistakes.
Agreed and agreed
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06-14-2017 , 10:01 AM
Updated:

Driverseati -1863 (pm for payment)
Goodbar -1129.50 (pm for payment)

Crazyrunner +198 (roll)
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06-14-2017 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by driverseati
Current, swappable (still working on last two weeks)

AngerPush +1559.50
EddyB66 +47
iTzLifestyle. +238
homanga +200
kobe2odom8. +347.5
gaffon +200
ZetaPsi909. +326
acesfull4980 +1238
CabreraEra2. +300
Sports87 +935

jabawokky -360

Please PM with discrepancies/if you netted in swaps last week, still trying to track down/unravel what happened
Aces owes Driver 33 less (1205)
Aces / Homanga square.
Homanga owes Driver 33 more (233)

Aces owes Driver 658 more (1863)
Aces / AngerPush square.
AngerPush owes Driver 658 less (901.50)
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06-14-2017 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by driverseati
Agreed and agreed
Lol it's me. I owe you 186 from the sterfry swap I PMed you about looks like.

After I was just bragging about how it couldn't be me because I update my numbers after every swap too in excel. My bad

Last edited by Luckybacon13; 06-14-2017 at 10:10 AM.
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06-14-2017 , 10:08 AM
I owe

Eddy -314
Sterfry -531
Driver -186
I am owed

Ry 372
Zachl 618
Bluff 300
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06-14-2017 , 10:39 AM
I'm beginning to think it's a bias we have where we are more likely to not record a losing bet. Idk. From time to time I forget to record a bet and it's much more likely to be a losing one. Maybe that's just variance, not sure. I always felt too that 98% of ppl's corrections with me were when their number will go up but I have had a few recently correct me when it's not in their favour. I'd like to believe everyone can be trusted to speak up when they find an error that negatively affects them but honestly, who knows.

It should be easy to figure out whose numbers are different pre and post swaps but actually bc ppl don't always include when they send or receive payment a next update could have a different net and still be correct. Although I haven't been great timing wise of first numbers update recently this debacle shows why it's important to post numbers every week. I know Cabrera and Loco have mentioned having to eat discrepancies before and tossed it up to their late posting. I would never eat a discrepancy, nor would I let a positive one go uninvestigated.
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06-14-2017 , 10:44 AM
gaff, pm me your pp if you wanna get paid

owe

gaff -344

owed
aces 1129.5 - pm'd, don't swap
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06-14-2017 , 11:01 AM
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Driver -238
Ryhen -80

I don't see any swaps but swap if you can.
Driver I got your pp will ship today or tomorrow unless I hear otherwise, ryhen hit me up with ur pp or roll up to you.
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06-14-2017 , 11:13 AM
Updated:

Driverseati -1863 (pm for payment)
Crazyrunner +198 (roll)
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06-14-2017 , 11:20 AM
owe

gaff -344
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06-14-2017 , 11:52 AM
I owe
Zeta -388
kobe -137.5

Homanga
+114
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06-14-2017 , 11:52 AM
I'm owed-
Zeta +579
Kobe +555
Zimmer +226
driver +360
Crazy +598

+2318
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06-14-2017 , 12:43 PM
square
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06-14-2017 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jabawokky
I'm owed-
Zeta +579
Kobe +555
Zimmer +226
driver +360
Crazy +598

+2318
Zeta has me and him at 354, I have 326. I'll assume 354 is right (I pm'd)
and swap off that, if not I'll adjust my number with him

swap between driver, jaba, zeta and kobe

zeta owes driver 354
Kobe owes driver 347.50
driver owes jaba 360

Becomes

zeta owes driver 0 (or similar, Pam'd)
zeta owes jaba 354 more (933)
Kobe owes driver 6 less (341.50)

driver jaba square
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06-14-2017 , 01:22 PM
Part of driver's swap above should be that Kobe owes me 6 more.

I'm owed-
Zeta +933 (PM'ing)
Kobe +561 (PM'ing)
Zimmer +226 (rolling)
Crazy +598 (PM'ing)

+2318

Will settle all but Zimmer's unless anyone has swaps for these by day's end.
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06-14-2017 , 01:40 PM
Final for the week:

Crazyrunner +198 (roll)
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06-14-2017 , 01:41 PM
Luckybacon13 +186
AngerPush +901.50
EddyB66 +47
iTzLifestyle. +238 (PM'd for payment)
homanga +233
kobe2odom8. +341.5
gaffon +200
ZetaPsi909. +/-0 (disc. PM'd)
acesfull4980 +1863 (PM'd for payment)
CabreraEra2. +300
Sports87 +935
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06-14-2017 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ZetaPsi909
AP -829
DRIVER -354
FUBSTER-343
JABA -579
SPORT -804
STER -2

KING +388
LUCKY +9 - discrepancy
Swap for crazy Jaba zeta ap

Ap owes crazy 579
Crazy owes Jaba 598
Zeta owes ap 829
Zeta owes jaba 933
Becomes

Crazy and ap are square
Zeta owes ap 250
Zeta owes Jaba 1512
Crazy owes jaba 19
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06-14-2017 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by driverseati
Luckybacon13 +186
AngerPush +901.50
EddyB66 +47
iTzLifestyle. +238 (PM'd for payment)
homanga +233
kobe2odom8. +341.5
gaffon +200
ZetaPsi909. +/-0 (disc. PM'd)
acesfull4980 +1863 (PM'd for payment)
CabreraEra2. +300
Sports87 +935
Swap 47 lucky eddy driver
Driver eddy even
Lucky owes driver 233
Lucky owes eddy 267
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06-14-2017 , 01:55 PM
I owe

Eddy -267
Sterfry -531
Driver -233
I am owed

Ry 372
Zachl 618
Bluff 300
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06-14-2017 , 02:09 PM
Updated
Driver 0 (sent 238)
Ryhen -80
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06-14-2017 , 02:19 PM
I'm owed-
Zeta +1512 (PM'ing)
Kobe +561 (PM'ing)
Zimmer +226 (rolling)
Crazy +19 (rolling)

+2318
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06-14-2017 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kobe2odom8
Swap out the 347.50 I owe driver. You owe him 347.50 more. you owe me 761.50.
Swap out the 150 cards owes me. you owe me 911.50. He owes you 350.


+911.50 sports87
+259 gaffon
+137.50 king299s


-555 jabawokky
-256 angerpush
Didn't see this (due to the craziness) and swapped out $6 with jaba.

If we can unwind just $6 of this (sports owes you 917.50) then we should all be good
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