the warning u posted some weeks ago was about chilipoker, not carlospoker. maybe u took one skin for the other by accident?

yeah your right, it was chili actually, think im going senile

are u still with them because thats the last place on earth i would entrust my roll

with this exception maybe

http://www.blackpoolclub.co.uk/

omfg i just find out about carlos :s... i want to cash out but dont want to miss new year fishies Damn :s

i play on carlos and i always get worried when stuff like this happends, and i have panic withdrawed, hope i get my money!
i talked to an affiliate who said we dont have to worry, money is safe and they join new network in january, i trust this guy and i feel safe, but not 100% cause u never know in this business and also cause i lost money before (pokespoker)

hmm where to go now, mansion, expekt? and EU-site so its taxfree..
chili feels risky?

I've been playing on Carlos for over a year and i've got to say they have one of the best customer service i've ever seen on any site. Their helpdesk always anwers inside one hour (sometimes 15 minutes) and my cashouts are lightning fast.

As Evigt_Drabbad said, you never know in this business, so i just cashed out 75% of my roll there...and it was processed to moneybookers within 90 minutes. My experience with them has been flawless (true, their website needs some work/updates, but who cares).

Anyways, I got enough left to play the new year's fish fest and I'm pretty confident the few grands i have on there are safe.

ty clarky for getting me onto bluesq

clarky, would you mind to elaborate a bit? I´m curious.

I´m affiliated with them in the same way like christophereucken.

I mean, they´re obv not going to share big business secrets with me, but so far i´d trust them a lot, which probably also has to do with the fact that i know most ppl in Person (= im biased).


As a fact i can say that i´ve had the most awesome support ever at Chili.
I wouldnt vouch for any gaming company with my net worth, but if there is anybody to trust, they are top ranked on this list.

IIRC, gaming companies, which are based in Malta need separate accounts for player funds. This should mean, that once a maltese skin goes busto\goes out of business or whatever, the funds *should* be pretty safe.

ah thanks for this, and its re-assuring everyone seems to be cashing out no problems. my main worry here is that the skin has the authority to withdraw your money/freeze it. i think?

as for elaborating, this

^^^^was said about chili poker and noi, not carlos. i was also told they were not the only ones in trouble with the ipoker hierarchy. The impression i got is that ipoker have had enough of skins bending their rules regarding rakeback and are clamping down. they have full clarity of a skins finances in and out of the poker clients and ways to track if they are busting the rule book. ie like i said they can monitor what percentage of customers are winning players and this seems to be the way these skins have been caught.

i feel like im scare mongering here a bit, im just going off rumours, albeit from an excellent source, and guesswork after that, so read into it what you will.

i cant really elaborate any further other than re-iterating what i already said about looking at the solidity of a company, track record, trading history. chili scores low here, add in the rumours, add in noi and carlos getting booted, add the current economic climate, and it looks a bad bet imo.

trust no one m8. your affiliate will tell you anything to protect his wage that he earns from you. hes not your friend

i had some relatives who lost all their funds in an icelandic bank a couple months ago, no notice, all savings gone. virtually every single ipoker skin are tiny tiny companies in comparison to this bank and your capital is much more at risk.

id rather pick the safest possible companies for my roll and lose out a little bit on the deal, in exchange for sleeping well at night.

edit - in other news i also heard virgin poker are joining the network. Again, this would be a great option for obvious reasons

clarky what do you think of Betmost Poker?

Is it a site where your money is safe?

i have nearly all of my roll on chilipoker and feel pretty safe about it. i also know the head of chilipoker personally and talk to him quite often. from what he told me chili has no problems with ipoker.

U guys r scaring me now

I can't see the funds not being guaranteed if they kick a skin off as it would do a lot of damage to ipokers credibility considering they haven't warned their customers about these risks? It's akin to government interference in the financial markets, where, again, the credibility of the market system is hit. I mean if all the carlos people get murked then i would assume literally everyone will move to the "safe" sites we've mentioned earlier which will undoubtedly lose them traffic overall to party and the like. And then i wouldn't be particularly surprised if some of the bigger ones like paddy and bluesquare thought about merging with each other and making their own network.

Even after this i still think it's probably best to be on one of the safer sites as even a 5% chance of losing all your money if they get kicked off probably offsets the pros of getting the better RB/Bonuses

so is anyone here joining the noiq race?

sry misunderstood how these skins worked a bit, disregard my last post.

I have read on the Laddies forum its going to be Entraction.
Supposedly same as:
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Victor Chandler
Pinnacle Sports
Betdaq
24hPoker
Martinspoker
Redbet
i4Poker

managed to come 58th in the sunday million last night for ~5k, lol donkaments

it was about 6am before I finally busted though, damn US tourney times

I can´t send PM´s to DrAction?? Please holla at me if you are reading.

hu anyone?

wat

arrr in

and you expected him to say what.

if you asked lehmans/woolworths/icelandic bank if they would go out of business 6 months ago what do you think they would say

thats a pretty naieve comment tbh

ask yourself this eucken, is your deal above board, transparent, or is it murky
,and if it is murky, then ask yourself how many other players they have on same deals, or has the boss of chili told you that only you are on this deal and dont tell anyone else.

if yes then they are in the firing line, if no, then they should be ok

even if they are in the firing line, it might be ok as long as your roll is guaranteed by ipoker as others have suggested

it would be nice if a repesentative of ipoker could comment on the security of our bankrolls in this thread. they must read it

betmost, i have no idea

clarky, i hitn ran you on stars yesterday haehaehaehaeh

thx for paying for my sunday majors*

Ya, i also feel like your scare mongering a bit, clarky

Nevertheless i agree with you in most points, exspecially "trusting" anybody.

If you have your full roll or more than 15% (random number) of your net worth at one site, you´re ******ed anyway and randomness (after all, anythign can happen) will kick your ass. No matter how much i trust a business, no matter what happens, i hopefully wont loose to much.
Its the same reason why smart investors spread their money into different markets, so one "black swan" cant kill ´em

In Regards to Chili i´ll say one more last thing,
since im a player and not their defender .
I´m living close to the office and they´re renting another floor, thus expanding. Not exactly signs of quitting business. So to say the least, money is safe there regardless of the rumors.

One must also keep in mind the "Cui bono?" - who profits - question in regards to "rumors". While some are true\ become true there´s also a bunch of gossip out there and those rumors should be viewed as skeptical as we view our skins.