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Old 03-01-2015, 12:27 AM   #176
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Re: ***The OFFICIAL 2015 MSNL Stars Regulars Thread***

hmmm, 2.5months is longer than i'd want to grind 500z exclusively for. but i guess if the odds/action was right i'd take it on. what sort of line would you think would be fair then, 250k hands of 500nlz at 4evbb/100 in 10 weeks?
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:24 AM   #177
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Old 03-04-2015, 12:38 PM   #178
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Hey guys, how much rake per 100hands are you paying at 2/5 zoom?

Also, what samplesize do you find legit at this game? Im not well versed with variance stuff so I would really like to know ur opinions.
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:57 PM   #179
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Re: ***The OFFICIAL 2015 MSNL Stars Regulars Thread***

just checked my database for figuring your chances out @d7...

maybethiscan help us:

got 1,2Million hands z500 in my database (WR ~2,5bb)
4out of the 12 100k-hand samples beat the 4bb/100 goal

taking into consideration that this is a challenge u will play more focused/less tables than me on average (not adding other zoomtables/lots of random midstakes tables) and should have a somewhat higher "true" winrate therefore.

So if my chance playing averagefocused/lots of 8tabling zoom was about 1/3 it should be possible to get up to 50%

I'm not the prob-bettingguy, but if I would I would give myself a 40% chance and selling for those odds (and expect this bet to be +EV for me)


Depends a lot on the time u're allowed to take, because timeselection is a big thing on z500...
If u don't have tough volumegoals u can pick the soft pools and get >60% chance on winning ur bet imo easily
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Old 03-04-2015, 02:26 PM   #180
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goose core which times in the day do you consider that the z500 pool is the softest?
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Old 03-04-2015, 02:55 PM   #181
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If any1 offers $ for a challenge of making 4bb at 500z over 250k hands, i'll accept it
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:33 PM   #182
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Re: ***The OFFICIAL 2015 MSNL Stars Regulars Thread***

I'm confused, are you saying you want to bet against person who is doing 4bb/100 250k hands or are you saying you can manage 4bb/100 250k hands and want to make a bet?
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:34 PM   #183
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I think it's common sense that 4pm-8pm European Time the pool is super regheavy and really good winrates shouldn't be possible.
the later the night or just in the morning u get a much better ratio. Lots of regs are students imo and are not too flexible with their grinding hours
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:40 PM   #184
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4pm-8pm is obvious, but i feel more like that the worst hours are 4pm-12 and if you are trying to avoid playing in this period than you do not have much of a life during the day if you want to do proper volume.

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Old 03-04-2015, 04:37 PM   #185
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If you're absolutely free in setting ur times go for this schedule:
Get up at 5am, play as long as u want to
Have nice lunch and enjoy a free afternoon
go to bed early

These are just times a lot of people all over the world are used to (doing "normal" jobs starting at 6am)

Not doing this myself, but it's absolutely doable and I'm pretty sure u'll have more time for spending with non-poker-related-friends
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Old 03-04-2015, 06:00 PM   #186
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yeah agree but the problem is that from 6am-12am lately there are only 30-50 entries...
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Old 03-04-2015, 07:57 PM   #187
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I'm confused, are you saying you want to bet against person who is doing 4bb/100 250k hands or are you saying you can manage 4bb/100 250k hands and want to make a bet?

No, I was saying I'd accept the bet and (try to) do it myself. But I only play when I feel to, and I'm not a volume grinder. so 250k hands in like 2 months is not gonna happen for me, as some1 suggested...
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Old 03-05-2015, 01:23 PM   #188
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No, I was saying I'd accept the bet and (try to) do it myself. But I only play when I feel to, and I'm not a volume grinder. so 250k hands in like 2 months is not gonna happen for me, as some1 suggested...
Well then thanks for weighing in....

Obviously having to play the hands in a relatively short space of time is a large part of what makes it hard, i'm sure there's a heap of people who could do it over the course of say a year, 2 tabling and only playing when the pool is great.

Anyway, doesn't seem like anyone wants to put their money where their mouth is so I'll give up on this idea.

GL out there gents.
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Old 03-05-2015, 02:20 PM   #189
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d7d1d1s0 I only 4 table.. theres no way I could 2 table 500nl loool
but yeah, I understand what you're saying. I do max 100k hands per month.
And I agreed, if u are saying that it should be done at like 1 months or so.. I guess playing 250k hands per month is harder than achieving the winrate in itself

GL guys!
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Old 03-05-2015, 02:40 PM   #190
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I'll take the against on basically anyone making 4evbb/100 over 250k hands at 500z solely, in 75 days. Willing to bet pretty big if someone's attempting it.
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Old 03-05-2015, 03:39 PM   #191
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Kangal what are the odds offered and what do u mean preety big?
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Old 03-05-2015, 04:12 PM   #192
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I'll take the against on basically anyone making 4evbb/100 over 250k hands at 500z solely, in 75 days. Willing to bet pretty big if someone's attempting it.
How big/what odds? I'm down to take this on
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Old 03-05-2015, 05:59 PM   #193
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Hey guys, how much rake per 100hands are you paying at 2/5 zoom?

Also, what samplesize do you find legit at this game? Im not well versed with variance stuff so I would really like to know ur opinions.
I was told it's 3.3BB/100, but dont quote me on it.
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Old 03-05-2015, 06:53 PM   #194
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How big/what odds? I'm down to take this on
Hope you guys work it out, interesting bet
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Old 03-05-2015, 08:08 PM   #195
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I'll take the against on basically anyone making 4evbb/100 over 250k hands at 500z solely, in 75 days. Willing to bet pretty big if someone's attempting it.
+1

Minus nagoya and avg greg

Looking for friendly bet though, im busto.

1:1: 4bb
1:2.5 5bb
1:5 6bb

Those would nego lines for me
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Old 03-06-2015, 04:36 AM   #196
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Tim's lines seem pretty fair, I'd probably do somewhere in the 5-10k mark.
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Old 03-06-2015, 04:43 AM   #197
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+1

Minus nagoya and avg greg

Looking for friendly bet though, im busto.

1:1: 4bb
1:2.5 5bb
1:5 6bb

Those would nego lines for me
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...6&postcount=30
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:26 AM   #198
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If you're absolutely free in setting ur times go for this schedule:
Get up at 5am, play as long as u want to
Have nice lunch and enjoy a free afternoon
go to bed early

These are just times a lot of people all over the world are used to (doing "normal" jobs starting at 6am)

Not doing this myself, but it's absolutely doable and I'm pretty sure u'll have more time for spending with non-poker-related-friends
2 entries at z500 right now. playing from 6 am till 12 for example not doable btw i have never seen at this time that z500 would not be running...
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:47 AM   #199
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funniest post in that thread has to be
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...97&postcount=3
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Old 03-06-2015, 06:13 AM   #200
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funniest post in that thread has to be
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...97&postcount=3
That thread is old but gold!
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