Hero - $3k - Hasn't played a hand in about 3 - 4 dealers but recently started picking up some playable hands. Just won a decent sized pot when I had KsJs and rivered a nut flush in a 3 way pot. Villain saw me value bet river kinda light when I bet $150 on the river with TT on a 98369 board and somehow got called by worse.

Villain -3kish - Hasn't gotten too far out of line, but I haven't seen him 3bet pre much - but did make a loose call pre when I opened $25 over a limp with TT and he called with 64o OOP. Probably not the best player but have yet to see him check/raise or put in tons of aggression. He is no way the worst player at the table, but not someone I would want to seat change or table change away from.

Hero A3 UTG+1 goes $20 - I will fold this at a tougher table, but 3bets are so rare, and stacks are deep, seems like a fair open to me.

1 random caller

Villain calls in SB.

$65
T84

check
Hero $40
Fold
Villain $110
Hero?

Pretty standard to peel a turn card here and reasses post turn depending on board texture... I don't see merit in raising because many times Villian will check/raise hands like 6s7s or 5s6s with this board texture so we do not want to fold out combo draws and spades considering we are on a nutted draw. If you do raise and he 4 bets (which Villain should only ever be 4bettinf sets given this board texture and your image) you find yourself playing for stacks as a dog. This is why calling then reassessing post turn is your best option.

Call.

Typical check raising range there from SB would be sets, draws with blockers and/or poor SD value such as J9s, weaker flushes etc.

I would call and re-evaluate the turn.


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Hero calls and turn is Q

Villain bets another $110
Hero?

I raise a lot on the turn, so this may not work for you.

If you are not tempted to 3-bet steal, then call-call of course.
If you are tempted to 3-bet steal, I think most of the time you should call and see how he likes it on the turn. Peaking ahead, turn is paint and he makes the same bet, pretty clearly indicating he has only Tens and now you can slam a raise. For one thing, he may even slow down with a small set since you could easily have just make a set of Qs. For another, your 2-bet call indicates you must have something; 3-betting does not.

After check-raising light, folks tend to give away their hands on the turn. And if he doesn't, well then call the turn.

Call.

You’re getting direct odds to chase your flush with his bet being so small.

Forgot to include weak pairs as part of his XR range there on the flop.

That being said, even though the Q potentially made a straight, I think you can discount straights and sets from his range now with this bet size as those hands usually bet bigger vs a potential FD, especially with you having the nut FD.

His range at this point are smaller FD, air, or maybe pair type of hands Tx, 8x etc that want to get to showdown cheaply. Except for the weak pairs (which you can probably bet big against on the river to fold out), you really want to keep the draw hands you dominate in.

So the question is what range are we raising here if any?

I think we raise weaker FDs, weak pairs and air if we still have those in our range.

Our calling range here are strong flush draws, two pair or better.


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Agree with call flop/reasses turn. I'm calling turn with the intention of making a big river bet/raise whether we hit or not. His turn sizing makes me think he isn't that strong, and if he makes a similar bet on the river or checks, I'm trying to take it away. Deep stack poker rules.

I call turn

River was a brick and I just checked back - turned out he had a set of QQ. Very strange. I guess I lost the minimum?

Check back is fine on brick rivers since there is a high chance you’ll get hero called by one pair type hands here. And you also are going to be ahead vs his draws which make up a good amount of his range.

I would bomb scary rivers though like a K, J, 9 etc probably with a PSB to fold out his weak pairs.

Be happy he has QQ then. Means you have a live one at your table.

Call flop, call turn getting a good price. Give up non ace/spade rivers.

Ace high can beat some of his river give-ups and you block a big part of his flop/turn bluffing range so bluffing river is bad.

from villians standpoint besides leading river, what else should they have done?

Given that river was brick, villain should be betting all 2 pair or better combos in his range here for value. To balance it out, you will also wanna bet some of your missed weaker draws with blockers like Kx or weaker spade draws like 97ss.

Prob gonna x/c Tx and Qx and x/f the rest of my range.

3bet pre for starters.

Standard to peel here, V likely has 10-8 A-10 or a combo draw. You are drawing to the nuts.

Fish do weird ****. But yeah well played. You got the odds on the turn to call the FD. I'd put the fish on TP as the turn bet is weak on a drawy board.

How can you post something like that without the pot size. What is $150 pot bet? 300% pot bet $150 into a $50 pot? 50% pot bet into a $300 pot?

Not trying to nit pick, but it's kind of important how you think about poker, that you think about sizes in terms of relative size not absolute value.

Call flop call turn. If you want to raise the turn, raise a worse draw than ours. For instance if he had what he had, we'd hate to be raised off our strong draw, so might as well pick a worse one to do it.