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Old 09-16-2017, 03:20 AM   #1
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3-Bet pot with TT

It was a loose table,
Stakes : 5/10 with ante 2
7 players

Hero(MP) > 2300
UTG ~ 1400

----Preflop-----
UTG raise 40
Hero(MP) hold TT 3-Bet 94
3 flods
SB call
BB fold
UTG call
Pot $306

----Flop------
[7d6dQs]
SB check
UTG check
Hero(MP) C-bet 153 (50% pot)
SB call
UTG fold
Pot $612

----Turn-----
[7d6dQs][5c]
SB check
Hero(MP) check
Pot $612

----River-----
[7d6dQs][5c][9s]
SB bet 306 (50% pot)
Hero ?


I think the first mistake is preflop 3-Bet size, maybe 120~130 is batter? or the 3-Bet size is okay in this situation?

On the flop SB check and call my 50% pot bet, I think he may have some flush draw or straight draw.

On the Turn, there is a straight if he hold something like 89s. he check, and I also check, I want to show down and see what he have

But he bet 1/2 pot on the river, if he hold AA, KK maybe 4-Bet on the preflop. And I think AQs like to be show down.

There are some chance he hold flush draw and bluff here.

How should I think in this situation, very thanks.
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Old 09-16-2017, 05:19 AM   #2
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Re: 3-Bet pot with TT

Vs an UTG raise I generally don't have a 3 bet range unless I'm in the blinds.
Any reads/tendencies on villain would be huge in spot like this.

As played and just assuming he's avg player I call expecting to see a Q a lot. But on balance your range looks like AK, JJ/TT so I call as there should be enough bluffs there. Jam seems enticing as I don't think he has very many 8s, but if he's a thinking player on even a basic level he should know I don't have many either so I won't do this.
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Old 09-17-2017, 05:23 PM   #3
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Re: 3-Bet pot with TT

3-bet size should be a bit larger, I agree. With this sizing, UTG should never be folding if it folds back to him. A typical UTG range here has mid+ pocket pairs, suited connectors, suited Broadways, and strong aces.

I don't really like c-betting in this spot. You're kind of just hoping he folds and the only card that helps you out is a T on the turn, which may be an expensive card if it is Td. As stands, this bloats the pot with a marginal hand.

Turn check is standard.

On river, T-T is a bluffcatcher here, and it's probably the worst one you have in this spot. This is a fold I think, but you can consider a call if you don't have the ten of diamonds in your hand because you want him to be bluffing with a busted FD
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Re: 3-Bet pot with TT

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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic View Post
Vs an UTG raise I generally don't have a 3 bet range unless I'm in the blinds.

Any reads/tendencies on villain would be huge in spot like this.



As played and just assuming he's avg player I call expecting to see a Q a lot. But on balance your range looks like AK, JJ/TT so I call as there should be enough bluffs there. Jam seems enticing as I don't think he has very many 8s, but if he's a thinking player on even a basic level he should know I don't have many either so I won't do this.


Thank you for your reply.
I am wondering that should I 3-Bet more for value or bluff when I am OOP.
The first thing is that if I am OOP and holding something like AJo, KQo v.s. UTG’s open, it very hard to do something on the flop. Should I use these hand for bluff?
or more polarized, use QQ+,AKs and something like 67s, 9Ts ?
Which is better when I am OOP


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Re: 3-Bet pot with TT

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3-bet size should be a bit larger, I agree. With this sizing, UTG should never be folding if it folds back to him. A typical UTG range here has mid+ pocket pairs, suited connectors, suited Broadways, and strong aces.

I don't really like c-betting in this spot. You're kind of just hoping he folds and the only card that helps you out is a T on the turn, which may be an expensive card if it is Td. As stands, this bloats the pot with a marginal hand.

Turn check is standard.

On river, T-T is a bluffcatcher here, and it's probably the worst one you have in this spot. This is a fold I think, but you can consider a call if you don't have the ten of diamonds in your hand because you want him to be bluffing with a busted FD


Thanks 3-Bet pot with TT
I don’t remember whether I call or fold, I think maybe call/fold is 50/50 in this situation.
I think Cbet on the flop is a mistake, and I want to discuss that if I check on the flop, and opponent bet on the turn, should I raise or fold, if he got AQ, I think he would donk on the flop, not just check.


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