Playing on a anonymous table 2/4$ got no reads on villian but assuming he's a fish because of sizings.

We are effective 150bb deep
Hero opens 2.5x on bu with 7s7x
sb 3 bets to 9x > hero calls

Flop JsTs3s

Villian c bets 50$ into a pot of 70$(70% pot)

Hero > ?

give villain a range preflop and flop cbet, then we can analyze the hand

Cant give a precise range but assuming fish perhaps its around 6-10% 3 bet and a wider c bet than normal.

not knowing more about the fish I would be inclined to fold and find a better spot

pretty easy fold

Maybe I’m too used to playing Bovada,but this is a fold without any previous hands that seem way out of line.

Easy flop fold, and against unknowns, I'm pretty sure I fold preflop.

This. Easy flop to muck imo.

some hands are worse off against a fish than a better player. this may have been one of them dont you think.
did you consider folding after his raise pre.

I did fold on the flop yes.

i am not saying you should have but you do need to consider folding preflop after his raise.

This is not a hard decision. Consider folding preflop. If you think he is a fish and will pay you off, then you can just setmine as you're 150bb deep. As played fold flop.

Lol at folding preflop deep ip vs fish with a pair when he will stack of atleast 80% of the time.

Almost a worse advice than Dnegs one: Never 3 bet Jacks

We've plenty of worse hands to fold with; I'm calling this one

You have no idea if he's a fish or not. You said it yourself. How do you know he will "stack OF atleast 80% of the time" when you said you've barely played with him.

In general yes, set mining is good against a deep stack, but against an unknown (and even more so if it's actually a fish) you have to assume his range gets much stronger when he three bets you. If you're calling for a 20-16% chance chance to make a good set AND get paid, you need to know a bit more about the dude if you ask me.

Also, On this flop, against a normal unknown he could have a MILLION things. And in that range, A single spade is in a LOT of hands, AAs AsK AsQs KsK, QsQ. This is not a hard decision on the flop.

Folding 77 hu 150bb deep to a 3bet preflop? The nit is strong in this one. And ask yourself how often you have a spade vs not having a spade when there are 3 spades on the flop.

I do know for a fact that this guy is a fish just by the sizings + the usual fish snap acts. I dont even know what the point is by stating his range is strong? Hands like 77 will just play easier and better vs a stronger range and it will be easier to milk the fish with a hand like this. And yes I agree its a flop fold which I did.

Flop is a tight fold, something like 8s8x is already a call.

if he has a wider c bet that is worse for you with 77 as you dont get to luck into something for free on the flop. and calling 6.5bb to set mine isnt so great unless you know something in the read.

Its a fist bump call preflop with even deuces here. Are you gonna explain why someone ever would fold a pair pre vs fish in this spot or you gonna keep throwing out random nonsense?

Fist pump*

Folding pre seems terrible vs any player with those sizings. I dont see anything in the sizings that clearly says fish either. Id prob call but i think its close and definitely less variance and similar ev if you fold.

Definitely not. Your implied odds are through the roof pre-flop if you're playing a weak-tight player. You also have position and get to realize a lot more equity on average, like if he continuation bets 225 boards with AK and gives up on a lot of different turn cards, for example.

Post-flop on this board, your reverse implied odds are awful. You are hoping to be drawing to a 2 outer, the board, as it is, is awful for your particular hand. Most turn cards make the board worse for your particular hand. Most importantly, you have tons of hands in your calling distribution that do much better in this spot than 77.

Just once more, I cannot stress how much of a mistake it would be to fold 77 pre-flop in this instance.

What type of distribution are you estimating for this player pre-flop? Obviously, it's largely unknown; but, I'd love to dispel very quickly the idea that folding 77 pre-flop is the correct play.

I believe this can be done by discussing pre-flop alone; however, if you'd like to entertain post-flop, I'm game for that as well.

Yeah, I'm not folding pf unless villain is a super nit.