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06-11-2019 , 06:34 AM

3baker

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Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 42

5/5/10 2.9k eff

MP(TAG) 40, sb(fish) call, bb(fish) call, I 3b Q

to 240 from straddle, MP calls, fold, fold

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(560)

Ch, I 190, he x/r to 900, call

Turn A

(2360)

Ch, V jam 1760

Hero?

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06-11-2019 , 10:36 AM

apricotjello

adept

Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 852

pre and flop wp
turn fold

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06-11-2019 , 05:01 PM

bailashtoreth

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Originally Posted by apricotjello

pre and flop wp
turn fold

Why?

Does villain ever bluff here? Where is QQ in your range of bluff catchers?

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06-11-2019 , 07:56 PM

3baker

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QQ no club seems like a break even to slightly +EV call based on MDF. However hes repping 44, 99, some A9s, and a bunch of NFD that is now paired, and maybe some Broadway spade draws? QQ doesnt have the equity to call vs this range. Would anyone agree this is a balanced call and exploitive fold?

While I think NFD is a majority of his range here, I'm confused why he would jam an Ace turn with these hands when he is really only getting called by better. I think his line is ok with maybe KQs exactly? (X/R way too big IP on flop though)

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06-11-2019 , 09:41 PM

3baker

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***villian did not x/r flop, he is IP. I dont have the edit option...***

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06-12-2019 , 01:00 AM

apricotjello

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Originally Posted by bailashtoreth

Why?

Does villain ever bluff here? Where is QQ in your range of bluff catchers?

V’s bluffs are hard to find.. TAG does not have 53 any combo, probably not many suited hands except AXss and KQ/QJss.

My bigger issue is that our own range should just have better hands. We can sometimes have 99, all combos of AA, a lot of AXs and A9/a4/a2. We can comfortably fold this in a live game imo

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07-13-2019 , 05:24 PM

the real mg0698

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I think most people agree that turn is a fold.

So I assume most people call a blank turn(Let's say 7d)?

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07-14-2019 , 05:16 PM

rainbow57

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Originally Posted by the real mg0698

I think most people agree that turn is a fold.

So I assume most people call a blank turn(Let's say 7d)?

Agree turn fold, calling seems optimistic.

Yes I am calling on 7

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Really think cbet sizing needs to be bigger, 2/3rd pot, maybe 3/4th pot due to stack depth. Due to stack depth I am assuming our 3bet range is a bit tighter and more polarized, so a bigger cbet size is favored even more. This sizing (1/3rd pot) might be fine if we were IP, but we are not.

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07-14-2019 , 06:13 PM

ShellPoker

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Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 228

Ch, I 190, he x/r to 900, call
Ch, V jam 1760

Just looking at the numbers this needs to work a ridiculous number of times for you to be exploitable. Easy fold. I'd take this as a data point.

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