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AKo 190bbs deep against a thinking reg AKo 190bbs deep against a thinking reg

08-29-2019 , 09:21 AM
V is a 26/19 regular in these games, overall fairly solid. I start with 190bbs and V covers. 6-max $0.5/1 on PPNJ.

V opens 2.5 UTG, I 3-bet to 10 in HJ with AK, folds to V who calls.

Flop (20.3 after rake): K82

V checks, I bet 6.9, V c/rs to 20.5, I call.

Turn (58.6 after rake): K82 [5]

V bets 30, I call.

River (118.6 after rake): K82 5 [8]

V bets 40 (leaving us with about 90 behind), I...?

Thoughts anywhere? Sizings, rangings, etc?

Just to add a little bit of my own for the parts I feel are standard -- this is my usual preflop 3-bet at this depth and over this open size. Having gotten the hand HU with me IP, I'm 1/3 PSB range here on the flop. I'm also not frequently 3-betting flop here IP on this dry of a board.

I thought V's turn size quite weird -- V could've instead bet 45 to set up for a river shove (would've put pot at 148.6 and us at 115 effective instead of putting pot at 118.6/us at 130) but is this just a leveling exercise thinking down this path?

Thanks.
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08-29-2019 , 09:28 AM
No need to up the raise size pre since you are IP which adds a lot of pressure on UTG when playing deep. River is so good that I don't know if I could fold here, he shouldn't open or defend 22 pre. He could go for a thin valueraise otf with AK although not sure how good that is, propably fine vs ur sizing.
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08-29-2019 , 01:15 PM
Jam over on the river. Villain's line is idiotic, he should never x/r that flop imo.
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08-29-2019 , 02:02 PM
he can c/r 88
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08-29-2019 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by yasuo
he can c/r 88
Yeah, but should he on the driest of flops?
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08-29-2019 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Jam over on the river. Villain's line is idiotic, he should never x/r that flop imo.
Totally ok to x/r quite many hands that deep.

OPP had AK? Played fine, but should have jam river. Could be KQ with that sizing.
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08-29-2019 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PassiveIsBetter
Totally ok to x/r quite many hands that deep.

OPP had AK? Played fine, but should have jam river. Could be KQ with that sizing.
OP had AK and did not disclose river action.

I was also surprised by V's flop x/r, I couldn't think of what I'd want to x/r in his shoes here besides 888 (I don't open 22 UTG and I don't think this V would either). I guess the x/r is just saying he thinks my range bet is FOS, but I thought the point of a range bet is that it is balanced for being FOS at the right frequency?
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08-29-2019 , 02:50 PM
it's a 3-bet pot with tight positions, it's not like we are overstabbing in a single raised pot. We have huge range advantage on this board, villain can't be aggressively checkraising, if he does, he'll lose a lot of our bluffs as we are going to be rangebetting this board, and he'll punt into our nuts with a capped range.

I think bigger 3-bet is fine with stacks.

river, how can we not call this down? he shouldn't be checkraising 8x on flop, now has 1 combo of sets. I honestly expect to see nitty played AK chopping with us more than anything.
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08-29-2019 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BlindingLaser
OP had AK and did not disclose river action.
Yeah meant that OP should have jam river. For you call is better.
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08-30-2019 , 08:36 AM
Anybody considering folding at any point?

I'm only calling river if that.
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08-30-2019 , 11:10 AM
would be tempted to shove river against this particular gentleman
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