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Calling preflop with suited connectors. Settle a bet.

View Poll Results: How would you rate the call of the 3bet?

Super Standard

18 14.40%

slightly +EV

15 12.00%

slightly -EV

65 52.00%

Super Spewy

24 19.20%

Bastardo

3 2.40%

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02-23-2009 , 07:26 PM

ValarMorghulis

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CO is standard 6 max reg. Seems to call 3bets quiet wide.
SB is a super nitty FR player. Range is probably JJ+,AK, if not narrower.

My roommate thinks it's a standard call to the 3bet, I think it's super spewy. What say you MSNL?

Party Poker $1,000 No Limit Hold'em - 10 players - View hand 47303
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Hero (BTN): $2088.50
SB: $1246.64
BB: $990.00
UTG: $1000.00
UTG+1: $959.82
UTG+2: $1170.78
MP1: $1256.00
MP2: $679.29
MP3: $1000.00
CO: $1684.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN with 8

6 folds, CO raises to $30, Hero calls $30, SB raises to $150, 1 fold, CO calls $120, Hero calls $120

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02-23-2009 , 07:28 PM

AAismyfriend

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with these stacks it's pretty spewy......if SB was 150BB+ deep I think it's ok.

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02-23-2009 , 07:30 PM

tvta

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multiway it cant be that bad.

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02-23-2009 , 07:31 PM

BombayBadboy

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Spew.

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02-23-2009 , 07:33 PM

CitizenJames

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slight spew.

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02-23-2009 , 07:33 PM

LucidDream

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spew. it'd be better if it was hu w/ SB and his range was wider.

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02-23-2009 , 07:34 PM

AJFenix

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Originally Posted by CitizenJames

slight spew.

Yeah, I mean if its ok 150bb deep it isn't going to be complete drastic spew 125bb deep, closing action, with position and decent immediate odds

Your friend is kinda right too in that its a standard losing-money call for people

Its not like krantz ever folded here in his poker career

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02-23-2009 , 08:45 PM

MatthewRyan

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damn, I call here 100% of the time

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02-23-2009 , 08:50 PM

cl0r0x70

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Slight spew, especially if you're not going to win a fair amount of the time by outplaying him when you both miss the flop.

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02-23-2009 , 08:52 PM

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AAismyfriend

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Originally Posted by MatthewRyan

damn, I call here 100% of the time

do you call if its only 100x deep?

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02-23-2009 , 08:58 PM

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mrw8419

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I'm pretty sure this completely relies on if you are stuck or not

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02-23-2009 , 09:00 PM

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krmont22

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we are 125 deep with sb and 165 deep with co. i dont think ive ever folded here closing action. if we are CO and have 78 i think its awful

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02-23-2009 , 09:07 PM

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SkeetyMcdoogle

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Originally Posted by mrw8419

I'm pretty sure this completely relies on if you are stuck or not

so true

"oh yea baby flop it big one time"

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"DAMNIT"

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02-23-2009 , 09:28 PM

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LegallyBlind

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i call here all the time, but i don't think its a very good play.

i mean b/c it's multiway and so much is put in preflop, your really handcuffed into playing fit or fold postflop. and the vast majority of the time you just fold. occasionally you'll flop a good to ok draw and get it in somewhere between 30-50%. and extremely rarely you flop gin.

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02-23-2009 , 10:58 PM

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LuckyfishZ

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not a fan of suited connectors oop

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02-23-2009 , 11:13 PM

#16

DA TRUF!

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Originally Posted by LuckyfishZ

not a fan of suited connectors oop

Hero is on the button. I call here 100%.

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02-23-2009 , 11:16 PM

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nuggetz87

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i mean, i call here usually, but SB's squeezing range isn't usually AK,JJ+. probably a call regardless imo

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02-23-2009 , 11:42 PM

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MatthewRyan

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Originally Posted by AAismyfriend

do you call if its only 100x deep?

the closer effective stacks are to 100bbs, the worse the players need to be. However I think 87s is still a call.

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02-24-2009 , 12:08 AM

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Moonshine

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i think it's slghtly -ev if you're kinda mediocre and slightly +ev if you're pretty good

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02-24-2009 , 01:01 AM

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The Velour Fog

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i think its slightly spewy, i'd still call though

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02-24-2009 , 01:06 AM

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smartalecc5

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Depends if you're hot or not and/or have momentum

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02-24-2009 , 01:14 AM

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Skirmish

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Sometimes call (33%), sometimes fold (66%)... it is borderline-ish.

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02-24-2009 , 01:37 AM

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MatthewRyan

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Originally Posted by Skirmish

Sometimes call (33%), sometimes fold (66%)... it is borderline-ish.

100% wrong spot for this

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02-24-2009 , 02:00 AM

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The Don

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Well I am the roommate so I'm going with super standard call. If you are competent postflop I can't imagine this is -EV... obviously I could be wrong. Anyone not lazy enough to do the math?

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02-24-2009 , 02:01 AM

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AP_Villain

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Originally Posted by Moonshine

i think it's slghtly -ev if you're kinda mediocre and slightly +ev if you're pretty good

yeah you're gonna need to be able to win when his ak misses for this to be +ev. if he still runs you over with a missed ak then its -ev.. or if the donk decides to win the hand after the nit checks with the missed ak

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