Call or Push? - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Poker Stars, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $1,493
UTG: $1,074
MP: $930.50
CO: $1,140
Hero (BTN): $1,075
SB: $990

Pre-Flop: 4

dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP calls $10, CO raises to $40, Hero calls $40, 2 folds, MP calls $30

Flop: ($135) T

(3 Players)
MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $100, MP calls $100, CO folds

Turn: ($335) T

(2 Players)
MP checks, Hero bets $340, MP raises to $680

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01-31-2008 , 08:34 PM

Big_Jim

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Call or push? Really?

He has trips like always.

I think this is a fold.

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01-31-2008 , 08:39 PM

Lyric

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Originally Posted by Big_Jim

Call or push? Really?

He has trips like always.

I think this is a fold.

His range includes any ten, any overpair, maybe flush draw. So at min I have 36% equity.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.358% 35.31% 01.05% 134819999 4010854.50 { 4s3s }
Hand 1: 63.642% 62.59% 01.05% 239002084 4010854.50 { TT+, 33-22, ATs, KTs, QTs, JTs, T2s+, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo, T2o+ }

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01-31-2008 , 08:40 PM

Big_Jim

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I think your range is way off

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01-31-2008 , 08:44 PM

Lyric

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Originally Posted by Big_Jim

I think your range is way off

He's playing 28/10/1.5

Equity goes up to 37% if I take out the overpairs and trash tens:

Hand 0: 37.710% 37.09% 00.62% 52714974 878461.50 { 4s3s }
Hand 1: 62.290% 61.67% 00.62% 87649335 878461.50 { TT, 33-22, ATs, KTs, QTs, JTs, T9s, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo }

Last edited by Lyric; 01-31-2008 at 08:50 PM.

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01-31-2008 , 08:47 PM

MTBlue

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Originally Posted by Lyric

You did it for preflop.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

5,148 games 0.005 secs 1,029,600 games/sec

Board: Ts 2s 3h Tc

Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 17.152% 17.13% 00.02% 882 1.00 { 4s3s }
Hand 1: 82.848% 82.83% 00.02% 4264 1.00 { TT+, 33-22, ATs, KTs, QTs, JTs, T2s+, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo, T2o+ }

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01-31-2008 , 08:47 PM

Big_Jim

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uhhhhh, no

EDIT: MT beat me

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01-31-2008 , 08:51 PM

Lyric

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Originally Posted by MTBlue

FECK.

Okay, so can call up to $310 if he's never bluffing. Toss in some bluffs and it might be +EV.

Hand 0: 18.322% 18.29% 00.03% 652 1.00 { 4s3s }
Hand 1: 81.678% 81.65% 00.03% 2910 1.00 { TT+, 33-22, ATs, KTs, QTs, JTs, T7s+, T2s, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo, T8o+ }

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01-31-2008 , 08:55 PM

aejones

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lol, sick turn bet

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01-31-2008 , 08:56 PM

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cowpig

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wtf do you guys think villain is doing with a flush draw here?

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01-31-2008 , 08:57 PM

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Yeti

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at no point in making those posts did you think

'37%? that seems slightly high given i have a dirty flush draw with one to come'

or

'wait i just strengthed his range and my equity went up'?

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01-31-2008 , 09:01 PM

#12

cowpig

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Originally Posted by Yeti

at no point in making those posts did you think

'37%? that seems slightly high given i have a dirty flush draw with one to come'

or

'wait i just strengthed his range and my equity went up'?

what's a dirty flush draw? I think his flush draw is pretty solid as they come

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01-31-2008 , 09:01 PM

#13

Lyric

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Originally Posted by Yeti

at no point in making those posts did you think

'37%? that seems slightly high given i have a dirty flush draw with one to come'

or

'wait i just strengthed his range and my equity went up'?

Strengthening the range took out hands like T5.

Yeah gimme a break. 37 did seem high. lol. meh.

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01-31-2008 , 09:18 PM

#14

sasha

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I think the poll should be call or fold.
I think it"s a fold he has T here like 85% of the time.
Villain seems passive so I don"t think hed be checraisng w/o a T
I"d usally check this turn, I guess You fold out midpairs often, but than you can get blown off your hand.

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01-31-2008 , 09:18 PM

#15

Yeti

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dirty as in paired board so might be dead already and likely one of your outs gives him a boat.

strengthened as in took out the overpairs which you fared slightly better against.

just busting your balls anyway!

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02-01-2008 , 02:36 AM

#16

Irish Mafia

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Originally Posted by Big_Jim

Call or push? Really?

He has trips like always.

I think this is a fold.

Ya seriously, where is the fold option. Thats the worst turn in the deck.

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02-01-2008 , 03:00 AM

#17

Lefort

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Am I the only one that despises pf?

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02-01-2008 , 03:03 AM

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aejones

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Originally Posted by Lefort

Am I the only one that despises pf?

gotta be at least a few nits around that do as well.

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02-01-2008 , 03:09 AM

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DJ Sensei

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Kind of a meh spot all around, none of your options look that good and your turn bet is way bigger than necessary. But I am fine with preflop and flop.

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02-01-2008 , 03:29 AM

#20

g-p

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who would fold a suited connector on the button for 100b stacks against a 4x raise

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02-01-2008 , 04:09 AM

#21

thatdonk

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i think i would check the turn a ton

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02-01-2008 , 04:48 AM

#22

PerDoom

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think you should bet like 180 on turn so you can shove river regardless if called and maybe 3bet shove if he makes a smallish raise to "find out where he is". that or check if you have a bad image for bluffing.

i guess this bet folds out a better flush draw. not really a fan though of this bet.

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02-01-2008 , 05:05 AM

#23

aejones

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wow everyone sucks at reading boards. i rule forever.

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02-01-2008 , 05:14 AM

#24

MatthewRyan

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preflop is bad unless ur going to play realllly well in spots like this

flop bet is standard

turn is terrible

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02-01-2008 , 05:51 AM

#25

_irock

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preflop i think is fine. Ill make this call a lot.

The turn bet is really bad. I'd fold just because i made such a bad play i wouldnt deserve to play the rest of the hand.

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