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Old 05-04-2021, 10:40 AM   #1
kingal3x
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AK out of position multi-way

- Hero is TAG relative to villains but far from a nit. Hero and Villain 1 know each others games pretty, Villain 1 and Villain 2 know each others games (I assume from their friendly chat) and Villain 2 and Hero have only a couple of hours of representative history.
- Villain 1 is a good LAG pro.
- Villain 2 is a recreational loose player (very loose and passive pre). Doesn't ever 3bet. Can get aggressive on the river, but still pretty passive and loose on this street too.

Hoping to get some feedback on pre, flop and turn sizings and then a strategy for river.

Hero has AhKd in small blind. Blinds are 5/10, stacks are 5k effective and standard open for this game is 50. It's 9 handed.

Villain 1 makes it 50 from MP, Villain 2 calls from MP+1, another passive player calls from CO and Hero makes it 300 from SB. Villain 1 and Villain 2 Call.

Flop - K 5 8 rainbow - Pot = 960

Hero Bets 325 and both Villains Call

Turn - Kh 5 8 6h - Pot = 1,935

Hero Bets 775, Villain 1 Folds and Villain 2 Calls

River - Kh 5 8 6h J - Pot = 3,485

What do you think of the sizings in this hand so far? Also, what do you prefer to do in this River spot? I am torn between Bet/Fold 1/3 Pot or Check/Call most of his bets.
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Old 05-04-2021, 06:19 PM   #2
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AK out of position multi-way

honestly every street looks fine. you could go a tiny bit smaller on flop or a bit bigger on turn but iím not sure either matters much.

on the river I like x/c vs most player types but if this guy is really loose passive as described we can just bet/fold to get value from his KQ/QQ/KTs/TT and run away from straights or sets that find a raise.

big pro to bet/fold is you get to set your own price for showdown, downside is you donít allow V to bluff
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Old 05-07-2021, 12:16 PM   #3
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Re: AK out of position multi-way

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honestly every street looks fine. you could go a tiny bit smaller on flop or a bit bigger on turn but iím not sure either matters much.

on the river I like x/c vs most player types but if this guy is really loose passive as described we can just bet/fold to get value from his KQ/QQ/KTs/TT and run away from straights or sets that find a raise.

big pro to bet/fold is you get to set your own price for showdown, downside is you donít allow V to bluff
Perfect.
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Old 05-27-2021, 11:44 PM   #4
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Re: AK out of position multi-way

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- Hero is TAG relative to villains but far from a nit. Hero and Villain 1 know each others games pretty, Villain 1 and Villain 2 know each others games (I assume from their friendly chat) and Villain 2 and Hero have only a couple of hours of representative history.
- Villain 1 is a good LAG pro.
- Villain 2 is a recreational loose player (very loose and passive pre). Doesn't ever 3bet. Can get aggressive on the river, but still pretty passive and loose on this street too.

Hoping to get some feedback on pre, flop and turn sizings and then a strategy for river.

Hero has AhKd in small blind. Blinds are 5/10, stacks are 5k effective and standard open for this game is 50. It's 9 handed.

Villain 1 makes it 50 from MP, Villain 2 calls from MP+1, another passive player calls from CO and Hero makes it 300 from SB. Villain 1 and Villain 2 Call.

Flop - K 5 8 rainbow - Pot = 960

Hero Bets 325 and both Villains Call

Turn - Kh 5 8 6h - Pot = 1,935

Hero Bets 775, Villain 1 Folds and Villain 2 Calls

River - Kh 5 8 6h J - Pot = 3,485

What do you think of the sizings in this hand so far? Also, what do you prefer to do in this River spot? I am torn between Bet/Fold 1/3 Pot or Check/Call most of his bets.
I think not betting the river is out of the question vs a loose passive player. The way to exploit them is to bet thin and get maximum value. I like betting 1/3 or even just a little more. So rarely will a loose passive villain bluff shove a river.
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Old Yesterday, 12:36 AM   #5
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Re: AK out of position multi-way

by "I like x/c vs most player types" do you mean bet or check, and call? Thank you.
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