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09-07-2017 , 10:08 PM
iPoker - $5 NL - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $541.50
BB: $492.50 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

Hero posts SB $2.50, BB posts BB $5.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) Hero has T K

Hero raises to $12.50, BB raises to $37.50, Hero calls $25.00

Flop: ($75.00, 2 players) 3 9 7
BB bets $37.50, Hero calls $37.50

Turn: ($150.00, 2 players) A
BB bets $90.00, Hero calls $90.00

River: ($330.00, 2 players) K
BB bets $327.50, Hero calls $327.50
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09-07-2017 , 10:11 PM
I'm a nlhe donk but I'll gii otf
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09-08-2017 , 09:01 PM
I like c/r the flop as you have backdoor draws that you can barrel and non A high equity for call downs. I'd probably mix c/c and c/r because of the backdoor equity and K over card.

As played the turn seems like a bad call. Your king outs aren't clean anymore and 27% equity to call. I doubt bluffing wthe turn would be good as the range advantage favors your opponent. You also block some bluffing candidates with clubs and the T.

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09-09-2017 , 11:46 AM
agree, equity gone after turn, get out there
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09-09-2017 , 12:57 PM
I wouldn't fold the turn, we have sdv. I'm certainly folding river though blocking lots of fds.
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09-11-2017 , 01:36 PM
It's a fold imo. The K on the river really is irrelevant because you mostlikely only beat non-paired hand.
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09-11-2017 , 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by just_grindin
I like c/r the flop as you have backdoor draws that you can barrel and non A high equity for call downs. I'd probably mix c/c and c/r because of the backdoor equity and K over card.
Hero is IP. Does that change your thoughts?
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09-11-2017 , 05:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lego05
Hero is IP. Does that change your thoughts?
Read the preflop action and didn't pay attention to positions just betting sequence.

Yes would tend to flat more IP as we can more easily play later streets.

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09-16-2017 , 03:59 PM
Dude, your check raising flop a high percentage of the time and definitely folding river.

The way you played it leading turn for 50-60% pot is a decent play because if he has air he's done at that point due to the fact that YOU could be holding the A high club draw if he doe's not. Another reason is because if he's running a play on you he will most definitely put more pressure on your hand when the A peels on the turn. When your playing HeadUp you have to find ways to win pots before showdown and check calling three streets and stacking off with second pair on the river is not one of them.

GL next time.
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09-16-2017 , 06:27 PM
I like the call and as played, everything seems solid to me.

By "like" the call, I mean that I think it's one necessary for a solid heads up strategy in order to avoid being run over.

With your open-raise size and pre-flop calling distribution, Kx is definitely up there by the river, though it's a bit interesting that you might prefer 9x simply to block 99. Also, having the T is less than ideal because it blocks some of your opponent's potential barreling range.

Card removal effects mentioned, they're small effects with this spot and don't change a ton about the river decision. This is also earlier in a heads up match at MSNL where loads of players tend to be bluff happy. I'd say you're VERY slightly winning by making the call, and at the very least, you're avoiding having your opponent run you over since your entire river calling range shouldn't be Ax+ (How's that going to be 50% of your range?)
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09-20-2017 , 11:11 AM
Raising flop is fairly non-standard. You can do it but call is absolute standard, and I'd need a pretty good reason to raise flop here. Turn call super standard.

I think you float 1/2 flop with tons of Ax, so you don't need to call river here with too many <Ax hands. For blockers, the T is not great. Probably better to hero call some Q 9 type hand. So just fold river without a good reason.

Last edited by lnternet; 09-20-2017 at 11:24 AM.
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09-20-2017 , 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shootaa
since your entire river calling range shouldn't be Ax+ (How's that going to be 50% of your range?)
Since we have a lot of non-sdv busted draws on the river, we can fold a bit over 50% here to pot size
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09-20-2017 , 11:27 AM
In my solve
- river fold% to exactly pot size is 52%
- KcTc is an around -1bb river call
- Qh9h is an around +1.5bb river call
- out of 92 call combos, 24 are <Ax, most weight is on Q9/Q7 (I have Q9o in pre range as it's a tiny 3b)
- worst hand that's a +EV river call is QcJc
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10-09-2017 , 12:13 PM
Forgot about this thread but as seen I did make call he turned over
Spoiler:
86o for busted open ended straight draw.

The way he insta-snap jammed river also felt to be bit bluffy in my mind compared to his other timing in previous streets/hands.
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10-10-2017 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lnternet
In my solve

- worst hand that's a +EV river call is QcJc
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it's profitable to always call QcJc?
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10-10-2017 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HUMBLE.
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it's profitable to always call QcJc?
I didn't save the solve. But it technically beats all bluffs, doesn't block the low card straight draw bluffs, and blocks some AQ/AJ, so seems reasonable.

Practically you probably can't call that as it won't beat all bluffs I imagine
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10-11-2017 , 10:10 AM
Thank you.
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10-11-2017 , 04:09 PM
Why did you call flop? I would of probably raised - You have 1 over which are most likely good against over pairs and a flush draw.

Also you take control of the hand.

As played it's tough - we are playing guessing games against his range.

We beat 86 / 8T / smaller flush draws, and hands like 9T which decided to spew.

We block 8T though but still not a huge deal.

Can't hate a call but I mean it's your 3rd hand. I guess you can get a read on his 3betting lol
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10-13-2017 , 10:04 AM
fold
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10-14-2017 , 11:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SB12
Forgot about this thread but as seen I did make call he turned over
Spoiler:
86o for busted open ended straight draw.

The way he insta-snap jammed river also felt to be bit bluffy in my mind compared to his other timing in previous streets/hands.
it was your 3rd hand against him...
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10-22-2017 , 05:37 AM
Am I the only one who hates this? Looks super spewy calling river. I dont mind the flop or esp turn call. (The ace is very telling & it can help you get paid off if you hit flush or you can use it to float with sometimes* if opp checks). Not big on raising flop texture because its so drawy & v might jam a decent % of the time. ( he did 3 bet only 3 hands in) Just fold preflop with no reads & 3 hands un facing 3bet vs unknown.
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11-13-2017 , 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SB12
iPoker - $5 NL - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $541.50
BB: $492.50 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

Hero posts SB $2.50, BB posts BB $5.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $7.50) Hero has T K

Hero raises to $12.50, BB raises to $37.50, Hero calls $25.00

Flop: ($75.00, 2 players) 3 9 7
BB bets $37.50, Hero calls $37.50

Turn: ($150.00, 2 players) A
BB bets $90.00, Hero calls $90.00

River: ($330.00, 2 players) K
BB bets $327.50, Hero calls $327.50
I think I am raising the flop here. that flop hits our range more then his. We have 33, 99, 77. And we do have to have some bluffs in our range. This is a good hand to do it with. if he calls we can pretty much a barrel any turn and put max pressure on his hands. When you call and see a turn here on the flop he can barrel a lot of turns big and price our draw out and i wanna see 5 cards with this particular hand. But as played on the river i am folding here. he has to many aces in his range. He has AA, KK AK, maybe 99 here. I don't see him turning QQ into a bluff. He doesn't have a flush draw often cause we have blockers to hit. THe hands he will bluff I could see TJ, 8T etc type hands that might go 3 barrels. BUt id fold here I think once he goes 3 barrels id give him credit. The king is kind of meaningless to me. He either has air or huge hand. The fact we have T makes me want to fold even more discounting some combos of 8T and TJ
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11-13-2017 , 08:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SB12
Forgot about this thread but as seen I did make call he turned over
Spoiler:
86o for busted open ended straight draw.

The way he insta-snap jammed river also felt to be bit bluffy in my mind compared to his other timing in previous streets/hands.
I think with only 3 hands on him this is very tough call. Nice call he would of got me to fold.
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12-13-2017 , 07:53 AM
I like the entire play actually. A hard river call but understandable. He ll almost never do this with Ax and only with sets Or missed draws.
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12-15-2017 , 03:43 AM
I don't really agree with much of the stuff posted in this thread tbh.

Tc and Kc both seem like pretty good cards to hold here.

flop and turn are std (can raise flop sometimes if you want) and river I would guess is at least a mix.
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