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06-26-2020 , 02:29 PM
2/5 bovada $500 eff 6max. No screen names since it’s anonymous. No reads except villain on BTN is a reg based on Sizing pre and post from prior hands. I open $12 HJ AKo, CO calls $500 eff no reads. BTN squeezes to $50. Folds to me

I decide to jam here. Protect my equity and put hands like TT JJ in a terrible spot. I would only jam AK here. Qq+ I 4b smaller.

Is 4b jamming bad or it is similar ev to 4b to $125?
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06-28-2020 , 06:05 AM
readless, I hate 4b/folding with any of my value range.

Readless in this configuration, I’m usually flatting AKo, QQs- here and 4-betting AKs, A5s, AA-KK. I’m definitely calling off I make it $125 here with all of that except A5s.

CO is almost always capped here.
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06-28-2020 , 01:32 PM
Jamming is definitely not a thing. Build a balanced 4b range and get a rng- in these spots you shouldn’t be 4b 100% of ako I usually roll like 30% calls here
Looks like you’re struggling in some of these 4b pots-
Think one of biggest leaks at midstakes is playing super aggressive as the 3bettor and then not knowing wtf is going on in 4b pots. If you have runitonce elite there’s some good content there to help. Pio pf solver could be helpful too. Gl
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06-28-2020 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
readless, I hate 4b/folding with any of my value range.

Readless in this configuration, I’m usually flatting AKo, QQs- here and 4-betting AKs, A5s, AA-KK. I’m definitely calling off I make it $125 here with all of that except A5s.

CO is almost always capped here.
This is the kind of 4b strat that almost all of the weaker regs are using and it’s pretty easy to play against.
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07-01-2020 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
This is the kind of 4b strat that almost all of the weaker regs are using and it’s pretty easy to play against.
what 4bet strat are you using
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07-03-2020 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
Jamming is definitely not a thing. Build a balanced 4b range and get a rng- in these spots you shouldn’t be 4b 100% of ako I usually roll like 30% calls here
Looks like you’re struggling in some of these 4b pots-
Think one of biggest leaks at midstakes is playing super aggressive as the 3bettor and then not knowing wtf is going on in 4b pots. If you have runitonce elite there’s some good content there to help. Pio pf solver could be helpful too. Gl
By balanced you mean to include some bluffs? Because these are anonymous tables and I'm thinking a linear range is better.
Same thing with AKo, I would use the same strategy every time at anonymous tables instead of mixing raises/calls. Personally I would 4-bet OOP and call IP against someone that I suspect to be a regular.
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07-06-2020 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by grubby4tw
By balanced you mean to include some bluffs? Because these are anonymous tables and I'm thinking a linear range is better.
Same thing with AKo, I would use the same strategy every time at anonymous tables instead of mixing raises/calls. Personally I would 4-bet OOP and call IP against someone that I suspect to be a regular.
If you are just calling ak o every time ip I’ll think that’s a quite a big leak and is leaving a lot of Ev on the table
Ak wants to keep putting $ in the pot preflop for the most part I don’t think the fact that it’s an annoymous table means a lot
I’m trying to play an aggressive balanced pf game with my frequencies in check (impossible without a rng)
and others are gonna have to play in some big 4b pots post flop with me after they 3b my open in spots that I’ve studied a lot and hoping I’m understanding better than they are after I put in the 4b that’s the way I look at it.
Lots of good things can happen.
(They fold pre, the peel and end up playing really passively post flop, folding too much not xr enough etc)
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07-06-2020 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BT2
what 4bet strat are you using
I try to play a solid 4b strat with bluffs coming from diff parts of my range using different blockers and trying to cover various flop textures not just axx with that’s that can flop well again over different boards that will realize equity well vs most 3b/call ranges
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07-18-2020 , 01:23 PM
its funny people try to balance in 4b pots they might play only 1 time against that player for the next month. GTO theory makes people forget about common sense. The only time gto matters is a small player pool that you play daily against guys that balance against you. In big player pools regs nit it up cause its to many different players. Unless you build history against that player and know hes coming after you or constantly 3b the table on the btn there is no need to balance. You are just lighting money on fire. Nits will just show you the nuts over and over again while you massage your ego saying its good for balance. I see it all the time in ring games. They 3b a ton vs weak players to iso them but against other regs its abc poker and they just print against these guys trying to balance.

But the reason you 4b and not shove is cause you do leave in 5b bluff shoves iwth like A5s cause some of these guys will do a shove here to feel like they are balanced to feel smart. i gone over tons of hand histories and i see these dumb shoves all time saying its for balance against a guy they have no history with. Its just comical. But he can't if you shove. You pretty much make him fold out all his bluffs. And the spr is so low position doesn't matter if he does call. Its pretty straight forward post flop. But you also leave in his weaker range like AQ kind of hands that might want to see a flop cause he has position or JTs or something. Long term its more +ev to 4b then just 4b shove over 3b sq. Its why you never a top player do stupid over shoves like this pre flop. It makes decision to easy for the villain. i get it though flop bricks with AK its tilting to check give up. but long term it can print a lot more money then what you did.

Last edited by iburydoscocaroaches; 07-18-2020 at 01:30 PM.
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07-18-2020 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
readless, I hate 4b/folding with any of my value range.

Readless in this configuration, I’m usually flatting AKo, QQs- here and 4-betting AKs, A5s, AA-KK. I’m definitely calling off I make it $125 here with all of that except A5s.

CO is almost always capped here.
flatting op losing money long term. This would make sense if he was in sb and you have position. This makes my point how nitty regs are to the poster. If your afraid to 4b AKo vs btn who has probably the widest sq range when you have AK op you basically never 4b with AKo op and losing a ton of money long term. I see a comment above they flat 30% of time. This is stuff i seen from people i trained for poker I guess cause they want to feel like gto genius. Its not the right way to look at poker unless your in a hu battle. In a sq pot you always 4b cause more money to take down in the pot and you want to push out the co being in 3 way pot op with AK is not good idea. Maybe if its hu situation vs btn the ONLY time i would flat is against a guy who over folds to 4b and is also very aggressive post flop on range advantage boards post flop. Then its a great spot to flat to take advantage of the way he plays. Other then that I wouldn't get to cute with AKo op vs btn. But again you need history in ring games against that one player to do that which takes a lot of time to build.

Last edited by iburydoscocaroaches; 07-18-2020 at 02:02 PM.
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09-06-2020 , 07:05 AM
"put hands like TT JJ in a terrible spot... I would only jam AK here."

This strategic leak clearly puts TT and JJ in a very easy spot as your 4b shove range is only AK.

You really need to study ranges and 4bet situations to avoid becoming very faceup against competent 500NL players.
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09-08-2020 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by slimshady1999
I would only jam AK here. Qq+ I 4b smaller.
Poker is dead
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09-08-2020 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
its funny people try to balance in 4b pots they might play only 1 time against that player for the next month. GTO theory makes people forget about common sense. The only time gto matters is a small player pool that you play daily against guys that balance against you. In big player pools regs nit it up cause its to many different players. Unless you build history against that player and know hes coming after you or constantly 3b the table on the btn there is no need to balance. You are just lighting money on fire. Nits will just show you the nuts over and over again while you massage your ego saying its good for balance. I see it all the time in ring games. They 3b a ton vs weak players to iso them but against other regs its abc poker and they just print against these guys trying to balance.

But the reason you 4b and not shove is cause you do leave in 5b bluff shoves iwth like A5s cause some of these guys will do a shove here to feel like they are balanced to feel smart. i gone over tons of hand histories and i see these dumb shoves all time saying its for balance against a guy they have no history with. Its just comical. But he can't if you shove. You pretty much make him fold out all his bluffs. And the spr is so low position doesn't matter if he does call. Its pretty straight forward post flop. But you also leave in his weaker range like AQ kind of hands that might want to see a flop cause he has position or JTs or something. Long term its more +ev to 4b then just 4b shove over 3b sq. Its why you never a top player do stupid over shoves like this pre flop. It makes decision to easy for the villain. i get it though flop bricks with AK its tilting to check give up. but long term it can print a lot more money then what you did.
Wat are you talking about
At mid-high stakes online 6m if you are gonna always play passive/straightforward vs 3bs you’re just gonna get crushed
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