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Originally Posted by djevans
Fold - You can't profitably call here. Sure he has bluffs in his range but not many that call that big of a turn raise.
Your turn raise is fine, just river card is unlucky.
I mean you can call here on very few conditions. He has to be a really good thinking player which you say he is.
His turn bet is a little strange with out a straight. It looks like he is trying to get you off a chop. I've done this many times and it's extremely successful. Especially if I know what the other player has.
Example
I had ATss
Flop was A35 one spade
I bet he called
turn 4 goes Check check
River 2
I overbet jam for $700 into $300 pot
He has no choice but to almost fold unless he has a miracle 6 which he almost never has. Even if he thinks we are chopping are you really risking $700 to chop $300?
Really depends on your player but with out being there and looking on paper it seems like a fold.
Villain later claimed to have a 7 but didn't show after I folded. I tend to think he did. He said he was just flatting raise with hopes of a bad river card to get me off a split pot. I tanked for a minute or two thinking this was a great bluff card and villain had been caught bluffing one big hand so far for the night, but given that most of his bluffs here are actually going to be for only a chop pot it really kills my odds for calling but i can include a lot more bluffs in his range.
By the end of the night playing vs this guy I think it should be a call but this game was deeper than I was used to so I might have been playing slightly scared (basically was running 5/10/20 with average stack depth of around 8k). Only played 10 hours or so of it but it seemed much more bluff heavy than 2/5 where the big bluffs are few and far between - at higher stakes should I be include a lot larger % bluffs in peoples ranges?