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Originally Posted by BigStackPoker
Live 5/10 NL Bellagio
V1 = Middle Aged Rec male who is about 10 rum and Cokes deep/ opening 5-7X EP with off suit middling cards and any Paint... calling down 1.5x river bets with mid pair no kicker and chasing draws for whatever price the raiser wants to charge essentially THE SPOT in the game. More or less a guy just enjoying himself on vacation and having a blast doing so over drinks and some poker
V 2 = 60+ year old Asain Male...Seems somewhat capable but is 3 betting V 1 relentlessly with all Broadway combos and suited Ace highs in the first 3 hours I have been playing... clearly I have picked up on this
The Hand: LJ opens to 40... V1 3 bets to $130 from
CO.... Hero on Button looks down at 7s 7c.... and flat the $130 (clearly capping our range but with V2 left to act in the BB and his 3 bet frequency to V1 opens I am comfortable with flatting and re-assessing should V2 4 bet). V2 in BB Tanks for 30 seconds and puts in a 4 bet to $310.... V1 folds and action back on me... my effective stack after cold calling with 77 is still $1400 and V2 has me covered...
My Thought Line: V2 is 3 betting V1 at a 60% + Frequency... when I just flat the button for $130 it clearly appears that My range is capped (which it happens to be) but given table flow and dynamics and the fact that i am viewed as a capable TAG during this particular session... there is now $610 in the middle and V2 is capable enough to know I've picked up on his 3 betting frequency can we ever Rip over the top with a backraise for $1400 and hope to scoop preflop or are we just burning money? I do think with my image V2 can fold all middling pairs he chooses to 4 bet squeeze and even 10s-JJs are put in a tough spot... also V2 folds 90% of suited Ace combos with the exception of AK suited and MAYBE AQ suited at a major stretch we also know he is folding pretty much all suited Broadway's.....As Hero what is your play?
Alright guys so lets reveal the rest of the hand.... SLOWROLL officially OVER
Action folds back to Hero on the button after V2 4bets the BB to $310.... Hero looking down at 7s 7c and having $1400 effective behind with $610 in the middle already... Hero thinks for about ten seconds before quickly deciding that the best play is to back-raise all in for $1400 in hopes of V2 folding out majority of his range which is discussed above.
Action back on V2 in BB and he goes into the tank for a solid 2 minutes before calling... V2 asks to run it twice to which I gladly oblige and both runouts come Ace King high with zero sweats for Hero and no 7s show up along with no straight or flush sweats.
After both runouts V2 says "You have to have it" as to which I am thinking Not even close buddy he then turns over QQ and scoops the $3400 pot.
In hind sight I really think Hero's back-raise shove was and still would be the most profitable play given this specific game dynamic so I am absolutely content with making this play. It would be a rare circumstance that this particular dynamic plays out again anytime soon but this was 2am in vegas during WSOP so maybe next year a similar spot will come up and I will have a different result.
Lastly, I was almost hesitant to even post this hand history because it was a dynamic that does not come up very often and the way I played the hand would be far from my standard line but after posting and reading through majority of comments it seems like most people are in line and agreed with my thought process and see merit in the back-rasise shove. It's nice to get validation that others agree in the long term a back-raise shove in this spot would be the most profitable play. Thanks to all who contributed their thoughts much appreciated.