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5/10/25 Suited connector in early position vs a reg-filled table 5/10/25 Suited connector in early position vs a reg-filled table

09-24-2018 , 12:02 PM
I thought this hand could have been played any number of ways, starting with pre-flop, so I'm sure it could be a PAWHM if those are allowed on this side of the message boards

It's very late at night and the game has become reg infested. Playing more like an online game with a lot of TAG play. Walks to the straddle have been occuring regularly and there is a healthy amount of 3betting.

Hero is a MAWG, well known in the room. Probably known as a winning player but looser than a normal pro. Everyone probably knows I'm capable of making moves, but my game is probably a lot more mathematical than ppl realize.

9handed

Hero (2800) has 56 UTG+1, opens to 75, all 3 blinds call

SB (1000) is an obvious rec player who bought in short and seems to be playing tight/passive

BB (3300) is a pro who almost always gets it in good which means he's actually a lot tighter than most other pros. Thinking player. Takes longer to analyze than most, so probably overthinks and overfolds a bit

Straddle (4300) is a pro who is looser than most, usually comes in for a 3bet rather than a flat, capable of making extreme moves, but all in all, weaker at hand reading than BB. I feel I have an edge on him when we get deep into flops because he generally avoids flops by 3betting and doesn't get into MW hands too often

flop (300)

789

checks to hero, bets 200, SB folds, both blinds call

turn (900)

4

checks to hero

Last edited by KT_Purple; 09-24-2018 at 12:08 PM.
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09-26-2018 , 12:21 PM
What does PAWHM mean? Never heard of that and tried googling it and nothing was helpful.
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09-26-2018 , 04:43 PM
This is really difficult. you want to target the small blind since he's more likely to put his money in, but by betting small and keeping their ranges wide, you also leave yourself vulnerable to allowing your opponent to draw cheaply with their 109 or Axd. I'd say you need to bet in the 400-500 range. I don't think you're ever getting your entire stack in here against two tightish players unless one has a set. If small blind is drawing, he might just shove the rest in, and if someone has J10 you still have outs. If BB shoves in this spot, I'd probably be a little worried based on what you told me. He doesn't have much weaker than J10 in his value shoving range on this turn since sets and two pairs are likely raising the flop. Bust still, there's a lot more draws out there, than actual value hands.
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09-26-2018 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Living Abortion
What does PAWHM mean? Never heard of that and tried googling it and nothing was helpful.
Play a hand with me - the abbreviation got a little mixed up


As played, turn seems like a really straightforward bet
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09-28-2018 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Living Abortion
What does PAWHM mean? Never heard of that and tried googling it and nothing was helpful.
Google isn't good at correcting spelling for acronyms. It's here: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PAHWM
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09-29-2018 , 09:06 AM
OK I guess it's always a bet.

My problem with this spot is that I shouldn't have anything here, this flop should not have hit my range at all. I feel like they're continuing range is pretty narrow here, my range is transparent when I bet, and it almost doesn't make sense for me to have anything on this board, or to have anything that can bet this board. I should be slowing down with just about everything I'm supposed to be raising with UTG, right?


So I chose a weak sizing

Hero bets 275, V2 raises to 825, v3 folds, hero calls

River (2550)

A

V2 instashoves, hero calls

(V2 shows JT )

thanks for the sanity check guys
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10-01-2018 , 12:22 AM
(Results make this a prolly skewed point?) but w V as described, this might be a good spot to make a spectacular fold.


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10-01-2018 , 01:39 AM
Honestly there isn't anything you can do to get away from that monster of a hand. Probably betting bigger on the turn to like 800. Even jamming might be better if you think sets will call. As played, when he raises your bet on the turn, I like a jam. You have a straight, but it is vulnerable.

The A makes me really happy to call the jam on the river. Tighter players might not be so aggressive with a non-nut flush draw since it may be drawing dead, especially in a multiway pot. I think it is very possible J T is the only hand in his range that is beating you that plays this way.
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10-01-2018 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by KT_Purple
OK I guess it's always a bet.

My problem with this spot is that I shouldn't have anything here, this flop should not have hit my range at all. I feel like they're continuing range is pretty narrow here, my range is transparent when I bet, and it almost doesn't make sense for me to have anything on this board, or to have anything that can bet this board. I should be slowing down with just about everything I'm supposed to be raising with UTG, right?


So I chose a weak sizing

Hero bets 275, V2 raises to 825, v3 folds, hero calls

River (2550)

A5/10/25 Suited connector in early position vs a reg-filled table:

V2 instashoves, hero calls

(V2 shows J5/10/25 Suited connector in early position vs a reg-filled table:T5/10/25 Suited connector in early position vs a reg-filled table: )

thanks for the sanity check guys
Regardless of what you think your range should look like here, there is no good reason not to protect your actual hand when it is this strong and still vulnerable, and likely to get action from many worse hands.
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10-02-2018 , 07:39 PM
Fold pre. Turn sizing is horrible (reasoning also not that great) and cost you a lot. You should almost pot it. As played, I like jamming the turn buuut this is not a situation where you should be.

V2 played great.

Last edited by Imaginary F(r)iend; 10-02-2018 at 07:48 PM.
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10-03-2018 , 04:05 PM
fold pre
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10-13-2018 , 03:31 PM
fold pre UTG+1 - this hand plays horribly OOP UTG+1 and vs a field of weak 3betters.

As played bet turn big - but you can't really fold turn

Unlucky cooler
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10-14-2018 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sonnyalbo
(Results make this a prolly skewed point?) but w V as described, this might be a good spot to make a spectacular fold.


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yeah, the thing is...he instajammed as if he was shoving all rivers which i think he was, so i guess the call isn't too bad. I assume he jams all his JTs hands there so i guess the call has to be made

first instinct was to check the turn because i'm not supposed to have anything that can bet and it's pretty hard to think of worse hands that can call. sets probably play faster on the flop and 2pair is weak

don't like my sizing on the turn either, i think a big bet or no bet is better but i probably lose the stack on this runout no matter what

villain is a pretty good player for sure
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10-17-2018 , 01:26 AM
This is not a board to cbet multiway with our entire entir range so I pot it and play for stacks **** a ten jack
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10-17-2018 , 09:51 PM
Fold pre.
Check back flop.
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