Effective stacks are 5k.

MP opens to 80, 2 calls, SB calls, I call with 88.

Flop ($400): 842
PFR bets $160, 2 calls, I flat.

Turn ($1040): J
SB donks for $300, I raise to $1000, he calls, everyone else folds.

River ($3040): 6
SB thinks for 20 seconds then bets $2000


Villain is a thinking rec player that plays way too lose pre but kind of fit or fold postflop from what I've seen. Not a huge sample size so he could still be capable of anything.

does way too loose pre = he may have some or all suited combos of straights?

still really hard to fold here, probably paying this one off getting >5:2 on a call.

I'd just call him down. The turn lead is just odd, and there's not much that really makes that much sense. Would he really lead out a diamond draw into 3 players? I mean, maybe he has a super strong combo draw like 5d3d or 5d4d, but even then, I think the lead is aggressive. It helps that the 8d does block some of the pair + FD combos out there.

Maybe he turned 2 pair or slowplayed a weaker set on the flop and felt the urge to lead the turn now that a draw popped up. It'd be a weird move to then bet the river, but maybe he feels like he's still good and that he can get another bet in after slowplaying the turn.

From a GTO perspective, we should call since it's hard for us to have a better hand in this spot, particularly with the diamond blocker.

villain most likely had a5dd-a3dd it might also be 2s or 4s that you are beating kinda flip spot odds are good enough to call.. from gto perspective yea i would call..

Well...this is ugly. Villain definitely has a bunch of flushes and some straights in his range, but he also has 44, 22, trying to get value. It's very unlikely that he has less than a set in his value range here. Have you seem him bluff? I think as played, it's probably a call as his line leans towards a set with the weird donk bet on the turn. though jacks might be a possibility if you think he'll flat those pre.

His value range in this spot is much bigger than his bluffing range though and i really think you only beat the very bottom of it. The runner runner diamonds only makes it worse for you, because it's unlikely he puts you on a flush and might bet his trip 2's or 4's.

raise flop for sure best here, calling is losing tons of value and giving free cards


turn, it's a call spot, but if you raise, raise a bit bigger, you want less than pot left on the river I think.


river, I don't see any busted hands. Should be a fold if he's not ******ed. But he might be ******ed with that turn donk.. so yeah, tough spot, I dunno.

would def fold unless he is supercrazy guy

I like raising the small sizing cbet on the flop here after 2 calls. What were the callers stack sizes otf? ott ap I would go much bigger. How wide is this guys range pre/otf? I would lean more towards a call in this spot otr i think bc of the board texture/runout. What XdXd hands call flop, donk turn and donk river? I am assuming he would 3! sets(at least top set if he doesnt 3! jj pre) ott to get all the money in deep.

If v is capable of anything then its a call. When he doesn't decide to play for stacks + the runout I think we should have the best hand enough. Generally though, everyone understands how strong of a line this but when v is capable of anything on this type of run outs I think we need to be calling here if this is all the info we have.

At the same time its a stupid spot because most villains will only take this line with better. The fact that v is fit fold post makes me think we are good here bc a flop call turn donk, river bet line makes no sense.

Does help you have the 8d. Just seems like you’re never good here. This line always screams A3d, 57d, 45d. I don’t think a smaller set but anything is possible. Getting 2.5/1 though on the river might just have to take a punch in the nose and call though and pray he just has like some random 10-9 clubs...or lower set. More than likely never an outright bluff here is the problem

A fit fold donking that type of sizing ott doesn’t really make sense with those combos though.

I think it take a special kind of bad to block bet small on a brick turn with those combos mw in a bloated pot. I think it’s more likely v has a weirdly played set than a funky bd flush straight combo ap.

Actually I lied.

I’m just going to ignore all our reads bc it doesn’t seem like we have enough meaningful info. Default towards a fold vs an unknown seemingly straight forward with a wide range pre with this line.

A5dd / 35dd / A3dd makes a lot of sense here.

I dont see him doing this line with a set considering multiway, if he's even half competent.

6 combos of sets, vs maybe 4 combos of flushes. 6d on the river weighs this towards a possible sigh call, but does he ever bluff here?