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Old 02-05-2018, 08:16 AM   #1
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4 bet pot vs reg

http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/8735912

Villian 3 bet around 7-9% would be my guess(no hud)

Feels like I should check turn or even flop but at the same time I dont lose that much equity if he jams the turn.

I've seen the pros use this combo to 4 bet bluff but maybe thats a little bit optimistic vs someone tighter?

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Old 02-05-2018, 03:19 PM   #2
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Re: 4 bet pot vs reg

Seems like a bad 4 bet bluff without history and vs only a 7-9% 3 bet. You just aren't blocking relevant hands from villain's 3 betting range and I would imagine your equity vs his continuing range is not that great.

I think the flop c bet is fine, turn seems to be an optimistic bluff. Without looking at what value hands I would bet/bet/bet here I can't tell if we actually need to bet with this combo. It's probably not a bad candidate all things considered but would have likely a just considered continuing to bet on J or spade and maybe give up on a lot of other turns.
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Old 02-07-2018, 04:22 PM   #3
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Re: 4 bet pot vs reg

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Originally Posted by just_grindin View Post
Seems like a bad 4 bet bluff without history and vs only a 7-9% 3 bet. You just aren't blocking relevant hands from villain's 3 betting range and I would imagine your equity vs his continuing range is not that great.
I think the flop c bet is fine, turn seems to be an optimistic bluff. Without looking at what value hands I would bet/bet/bet here I can't tell if we actually need to bet with this combo. It's probably not a bad candidate all things considered but would have likely a just considered continuing to bet on J or spade and maybe give up on a lot of other turns.
Ditto quote above: 7-9% 3 bet does not include much that won't beat Q9 suited ......and your bet sizing makes it easy to call.
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Old 02-07-2018, 11:50 PM   #4
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Re: 4 bet pot vs reg

I would size to 125 pre, not that it matters much but anyway I think Q9s is fine although I like a hand like K7s or A4s a bit more, postflop seems okay although I think I would check turn more often than bet given how I personally play my value range there
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:29 AM   #5
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4 bet pot vs reg

SiZing should be bigger

Not a fan of the hand itself for a 4b, it isn’t great for getting folds (blockers) and isn’t great vs his continuing range
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Old 02-08-2018, 06:03 PM   #6
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Re: 4 bet pot vs reg

So with that said, does this hand go into a call or should I even fold it pre vs tighter opponents? Ofcourse this depends on the opponent but lets just say that villian plays tight but compotent to get a perspective.
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