Hi guys,

5 handed 5-10-20 live

UTG has ~2800
HERO (CO) has ~7000
Villain (SB - 10dollar) has ~5500

HERO has A3

UTG raises to 70, HERO and SB call

POT: 235

FLOP: 23J

SB checks, UTG bets 100, both HERO and SB calls

POT: 535

TURN: K (23J)

SB checks, UTG bets 330, HERO calls, SB raises to 1150, UTG tanks and folds.

HERO decides to reraise to 4000.

What do you guys think of this line??

At first I thought it was a line that could never be balanced but if you balance it with flop slowplays of 22 or 33, it's ok. I doubt u can sell it as a set of kings or jacks because you just called pre. The only problem is that most people never slowplay low sets. It might work with KJ.... and playing KJ this way works really well since you had a UTG raiser who cbed the flop and the board has become coordinated, although your original call ott makes this story somewhat difficult to sell because you would generally want to raise immediately to make sure those behind you can't just overcall.

I think your hand selection by itself is fine but the turn card and betting sequence up until that point seem to indicate a 3b would probably be pretty bad without some reads/history with villain.

THIS.

I think it's pretty unlikely for Villain to have a bluff in this spot unless you somehow know otherwise. Feels like Two pair+.

Anytime you do this and think to yourself, I can rep sets...it’s usually not gonna work out

No one said anything about repping sets. I mentioned also doing it with sets to balance. Op said nothing about it.

I think his comment is pointing out the fact that sets are about the only thing you can rep, which usually means you need to evaluate your bluffing line.

We have blockers to 33, but 22, KJ, and JJ all seem like possibilities here. With the Ac also, that limits quite a bit of his bluffs. SB is either a maniac check raising the turn into 2 people with complete air or he's got the nuts and isn't folding. I would not bluff here.

this spot is wayyy underbluffed by the sb in live poker, this is burning money imo

call turn (about 3:1)

You have 8 outs for nut flush the Jack likely isn't helping. Your Flush is concealed so you should be able to extract value on the river. Besides if another 3 or an Ace hits on the river you will be ahead of his two pair combos especially KJ which is his most likely holding here.
And you are in position...

About your question: He most likely is ahead of you and won't fold. I could only see him doing it with QT as a combo draw. So as previous poster said you are burning money here

I don't think you an rep anything but a draw. 2 pair probably snaps you off. If you have a good read on the opponent and think he makes moves with marginal hands and then folds, then it's good.

Eek.

Can we just not, and find a better spot?

Which hands do you think the SB is raise/folding on the turn?


I think he has KJ pretty much always and he's not folding that.



Small chance he is bluffing with clubs too, in which case just flatting is probably better too.

I think this is questionable and I wouldn't do it. A few reasons:

SBs bluff combos are probably all clubs. Its hard for him to get to the turn with another type of a bluffable hand. I discount 45s a little bit due to the preflop action, so other than that we're looking at QTcc, 9Tcc. Having the Ac we block some club combos he could have if we did not have that card, but not necessarily a ton because I think he would only do this with backdoor flush + backdoor straight hands (I think A2/3/4/5cc, ATcc, AQcc for 6 combos) Having a 3 is good as it blocks 33, but that blocks 2 only. 22, JJ, KK (less so KK) are possible here too. Overall, its looking like a lot more value than bluff.

More generally ... This a spot SB wont have a lot of bluffs because its really hard for him to get to the turn with something bluffable unless he's playing really sloppy. He also has to be kind of losing his mind to think both Hero and UTG are sitting on a wide, foldable range. He should be cautious bluffing here. As a final less important point, his sizing seems pretty small to me... So I would discount draws a little more.

The idea you have here is a good one... I just think its not the right situation for it. I would definitely be good with you instead raising turn vs UTG's bet depending on reads. To me that option is a clear winner vs flat/3bet. Or just fold turn which is also completely fine.