Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Medium-High Stakes PL/NL Discussions about medium-high stakes pot-limit and no-limit hold'em (2-4 and up)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-26-2021, 12:06 PM   #51
Karls_Hungus
old hand
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,632
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by REDeYeS00 View Post
acknowledged and agreed
Ditto
Karls_Hungus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2021, 12:19 PM   #52
mdot20
grinder
 
mdot20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 663
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Good with me.
mdot20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 07:28 PM   #53
erroneous
adept
 
erroneous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,194
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Sounds good. Hopefully not needed.
erroneous is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 02:36 PM   #54
Admo
veteran
 
Admo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,954
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***



Rules change was 72 hours ago. No refunds were requested so this pool is locked. Let us scrambllle.

--

Final squares tally:

Admo
Admo
Admo
Admo
bad_carma
bad_carma
bad_carma
bad_carma
Bidz
Bidz
BluffMyNuts
BluffMyNuts
BluffMyNuts
BluffMyNuts
bowlman628
dw2006
dw2006
erroneous
erroneous
erroneous
erroneous
h_ven
h_ven
h_ven
h_ven
homanga
homanga
homanga
JDalla
JDalla
JDalla
JDalla
JDalla
JDalla
Johnny Pancake
Johnny Pancake
Johnny Pancake
Johnny Pancake
Karls_Hungus
Karls_Hungus
kingof299s
kingof299s
kingof299s
kingof299s
kkcountry
kkcountry
kkcountry
Luckybacon13
Luckybacon14
marknfw
marknfw
marknfw
marknfw
mdot20
mdot20
mdot20
moneymaker
moneymaker
moneymaker
moneymaker
moneymaker
moneymaker
moneymaker
moneymaker
moneymaker
moneymaker
MR GOODBAR
MR GOODBAR
nhfunkii
nhfunkii
nhfunkii
nhfunkii
Pasterbator
PenelopeCruz
PenelopeCruz
PenelopeCruz
PenelopeCruz
Rafter
Rafter
Rafter
Rafter
REDeYeS00
REDeYeS00
REDeYeS00
scenario20
scenario21
scenario22
scenario23
TeeJayOrTJ
TeeJayOrTJ
TeeJayOrTJ
TeeJayOrTJ
THOM
THOM
THOM
THOM
YourDoom
YourDoom
YourDoom
YourDoom

-------


We'll scramble the pool using the same method in years past.



::: SCRAMBLE STEP 1 :::

Declare the two axis:
The higher seeded team (or "Favorites" by seed, not spread) are on the x-axis, which is the number line on the top.
The lower seeded team (or "Underdogs") are on the y-axis, which is the number line on the left side.


::: SCRAMBLE STEP 2 :::

Seed the list. I've seeded the list of 100 bets using an undisclosed method and sent it to an undisclosed 2+2'er.


::: SCRAMBLE STEP 3 :::

Generate the Squares Number List that determines who gets which square based on the seed list.

Audience participation time. We need a volunteer to do these steps:
a. Go to the sequence generator at random.org
b. Enter in smallest value: 1
c. Enter in largest value: 100
d. Press the "Get Sequence" button
e. Copy and paste the generated list of 100 numbers in this thread
Volunteer must meet these criteria:
i. is not me or one of the pool escrows
ii. has a 2017 or earlier reg date
iii. has at least 100 posts
I'll quote the first post after mine that does this correctly and that will be the Squares Number list.
Admo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 03:41 PM   #55
marknfw
<place holder>
 
marknfw's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 8,552
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Here is your sequence:

29
91
19
67
48
15
13
62
94
51
20
72
10
70
83
18
97
22
5
79
93
53
1
71
26
63
88
34
32
80
59
55
3
33
14
31
87
7
76
85
47
77
24
98
54
23
41
81
60
2
35
74
86
95
21
43
40
49
73
69
8
16
30
66
27
64
56
25
100
58
11
99
42
90
45
28
89
82
75
6
9
96
50
17
12
65
92
4
38
68
84
37
61
46
39
78
44
52
57
36
Timestamp: 2021-02-28 19:40:42 UTC
marknfw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 04:09 PM   #56
Admo
veteran
 
Admo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,954
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by marknfw View Post
Here is your sequence:

29
91
19
67
48
15
13
62
94
51
20
72
10
70
83
18
97
22
5
79
93
53
1
71
26
63
88
34
32
80
59
55
3
33
14
31
87
7
76
85
47
77
24
98
54
23
41
81
60
2
35
74
86
95
21
43
40
49
73
69
8
16
30
66
27
64
56
25
100
58
11
99
42
90
45
28
89
82
75
6
9
96
50
17
12
65
92
4
38
68
84
37
61
46
39
78
44
52
57
36
Timestamp: 2021-02-28 19:40:42 UTC

Thx, marknfw. This is the Squares Number List.

--

::: SCRAMBLE STEP 4 :::

Generate the Favorites numbers line.

Now we need a volunteer to do these steps:
a. Go to the sequence generator at random.org/sequences
b. Enter in smallest value: 0
c. Enter in largest value: 9
d. Press the "Get Sequence" button
e. Copy and paste the generated list of 10 numbers in this thread
Volunteer must meet these criteria:
i. is not me or marknfw
ii. has a 2017 or earlier reg date
iii. has at least 100 posts
I'll quote the first post that does this correctly and that will be our Favorites numbers line.
Admo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 04:15 PM   #57
golddog
veteran
 
golddog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: In the beer line
Posts: 2,997
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Here is your sequence:

0
8
9
7
3
1
6
5
4
2
Timestamp: 2021-02-28 20:14:39 UTC
golddog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 04:38 PM   #58
Admo
veteran
 
Admo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,954
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddog View Post
Here is your sequence:

0
8
9
7
3
1
6
5
4
2
Timestamp: 2021-02-28 20:14:39 UTC
Thx golddog. This is the Favorites numbers line.

::: SCRAMBLE STEP 5 :::

Generate the Underdogs numbers line.

Now we need a volunteer to do these steps:
a. Go to the sequence generator at random.org/sequences
b. Enter in smallest value: 0
c. Enter in largest value: 9
d. Press the "Get Sequence" button
e. Copy and paste the generated list of 10 numbers in this thread
Volunteer must meet these criteria:
i. is not me, golddog, or marknfw
ii. has a 2017 or earlier reg date
iii. has at least 100 posts
I'll quote the first post that does this correctly and that will be our Underdogs numbers line
Admo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 04:46 PM   #59
ligastar
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
ligastar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: WWMMD
Posts: 21,352
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Here is your sequence:

9
8
1
6
7
4
0
2
5
3
Timestamp: 2021-02-28 20:45:54 UTC
ligastar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 05:10 PM   #60
Admo
veteran
 
Admo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,954
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by ligastar View Post
Here is your sequence:

9
8
1
6
7
4
0
2
5
3
Timestamp: 2021-02-28 20:45:54 UTC
Thanks ligastar, this will be our Underdogs Line.

It'll take a couple hours to draw up, post the squares grid, and create a printable pdf.

--

Here's the PM I sent to BKiCe before we started the scramble:

Re: Squares Pool Seed List (Main Pool)
Andy,

You're a 10 year veteran in this pool so I'm sending you the Seed Lists we're using this year to scramble the grid. You can ignore this PM -- we'll only need to refer back to it if i eff something up.

thx,
Adam

---

SQUARES POOL SEED LIST
(alphabetical order starting with "T")

1 TeeJayOrTJ
2 TeeJayOrTJ
3 TeeJayOrTJ
4 TeeJayOrTJ
5 THOM
6 THOM
7 THOM
8 THOM
9 YourDoom
10 YourDoom
11 YourDoom
12 YourDoom
13 Admo
14 Admo
15 Admo
16 Admo
17 bad_carma
18 bad_carma
19 bad_carma
20 bad_carma
21 Bidz
22 Bidz
23 BluffMyNuts
24 BluffMyNuts
25 BluffMyNuts
26 BluffMyNuts
27 bowlman628
28 dw2006
29 dw2006
30 erroneous
31 erroneous
32 erroneous
33 erroneous
34 h_ven
35 h_ven
36 h_ven
37 h_ven
38 homanga
39 homanga
40 homanga
41 JDalla
42 JDalla
43 JDalla
44 JDalla
45 JDalla
46 JDalla
47 Johnny Pancake
48 Johnny Pancake
49 Johnny Pancake
50 Johnny Pancake
51 Karls_Hungus
52 Karls_Hungus
53 kingof299s
54 kingof299s
55 kingof299s
56 kingof299s
57 kkcountry
58 kkcountry
59 kkcountry
60 Luckybacon13
61 Luckybacon14
62 marknfw
63 marknfw
64 marknfw
65 marknfw
66 mdot20
67 mdot20
68 mdot20
69 moneymaker
70 moneymaker
71 moneymaker
72 moneymaker
73 moneymaker
74 moneymaker
75 moneymaker
76 moneymaker
77 moneymaker
78 moneymaker
79 MR GOODBAR
80 MR GOODBAR
81 nhfunkii
82 nhfunkii
83 nhfunkii
84 nhfunkii
85 Pasterbator
86 PenelopeCruz
87 PenelopeCruz
88 PenelopeCruz
89 PenelopeCruz
90 Rafter
91 Rafter
92 Rafter
93 Rafter
94 REDeYeS00
95 REDeYeS00
96 REDeYeS00
97 scenario20
98 scenario21
99 scenario22
100 scenario23
Admo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 05:35 PM   #61
Admo
veteran
 
Admo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,954
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

::: SCRAMBLE STEP 6 :::

Matching up the Squares list to the Seed list and then sorting them by Square number:
(this is the grid)

1 BluffMyNuts
2 Johnny Pancake
3 erroneous
4 PenelopeCruz
5 bad_carma
6 MR GOODBAR
7 homanga
8 Luckybacon14
9 nhfunkii
10 Admo
11 moneymaker
12 Pasterbator
13 THOM
14 h_ven
15 THOM
16 marknfw
17 nhfunkii
18 Admo
19 TeeJayOrTJ
20 YourDoom
21 kingof299s
22 bad_carma
23 JDalla
24 JDalla
25 mdot20
26 BluffMyNuts
27 marknfw
28 moneymaker
29 TeeJayOrTJ
30 marknfw
31 h_ven
32 dw2006
33 h_ven
34 dw2006
35 Karls_Hungus
36 scenario23
37 Rafter
38 PenelopeCruz
39 REDeYeS00
40 kkcountry
41 Johnny Pancake
42 moneymaker
43 kingof299s
44 scenario20
45 moneymaker
46 REDeYeS00
47 JDalla
48 THOM
49 kkcountry
50 nhfunkii
51 YourDoom
52 scenario21
53 Bidz
54 JDalla
55 erroneous
56 mdot20
57 scenario22
58 moneymaker
59 erroneous
60 Johnny Pancake
61 Rafter
62 THOM
63 BluffMyNuts
64 mdot20
65 PenelopeCruz
66 marknfw
67 TeeJayOrTJ
68 Rafter
69 Luckybacon13
70 Admo
71 BluffMyNuts
72 YourDoom
73 kkcountry
74 Karls_Hungus
75 MR GOODBAR
76 homanga
77 JDalla
78 REDeYeS00
79 bad_carma
80 erroneous
81 Johnny Pancake
82 moneymaker
83 Admo
84 Rafter
85 homanga
86 kingof299s
87 h_ven
88 bowlman628
89 moneymaker
90 moneymaker
91 TeeJayOrTJ
92 PenelopeCruz
93 Bidz
94 YourDoom
95 kingof299s
96 nhfunkii
97 bad_carma
98 JDalla
99 moneymaker
100 moneymaker

-------------------------------------------------



Here's a printable pdf of the squares grid:
2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool

-------------------------------------------------------------------


Notes:
  • Payouts are based on a game's final score, not end of regulation.
  • When two teams match up in the tournament with the same seed, we'll use the NCAA Selection Committee's pre-tournament ranking of all 68 teams to determine which team is on the favorite line and which is the underdog. (list will be posted on Selection Sunday)

RULES ADDENDUM FOR FORFEITS OR CANCELLATIONS
  1. If a single game is cancelled or forfeited, that game's payout will be awarded on the next game upstream in that branch of the bracket. Payout will be based on the halftime score instead of final score.
  2. If the tournament gets cancelled mid-round, all remaining payouts will be evenly distributed to game winners in that current round of the tournament.
  3. If the tournament gets cancelled in between rounds, all remaining payouts will be evenly distributed to game winners in the previous round of the tournament.
  4. If the tournament gets cancelled before starting, all entries will be refunded.
Admo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 07:31 PM   #62
erroneous
adept
 
erroneous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,194
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Great trial run. Ready for the real numbers now...............
erroneous is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 07:46 PM   #63
marknfw
<place holder>
 
marknfw's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 8,552
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

That's the beauty of this, no bad numbers. Well, except 2-2 and 9-9, of course...
marknfw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2021, 11:14 AM   #64
golddog
veteran
 
golddog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: In the beer line
Posts: 2,997
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Stop! I don't see my entry in there. Am I just missing it?
golddog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2021, 11:38 AM   #65
pmarrsouth
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Global
Posts: 4,075
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddog View Post
Stop! I don't see my entry in there. Am I just missing it?
Reserve in the second chance squares! Same cost, EV etc

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...-pool-1786308/
pmarrsouth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2021, 12:46 PM   #66
golddog
veteran
 
golddog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: In the beer line
Posts: 2,997
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by pmarrsouth View Post
Reserve in the second chance squares! Same cost, EV etc

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...-pool-1786308/
Ah, I see. I guess I got bumped to the kiddie pool because this was my first year in?

It's OK, I'll get a sweat and lose $300 no matter which one I'm in.

Thanks for the info, pmarr.
golddog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2021, 01:00 PM   #67
Admo
veteran
 
Admo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,954
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddog View Post
Stop! I don't see my entry in there. Am I just missing it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Admo View Post
[*]This pool is mostly first come, first served, meaning we're closed when 100 squares are paid for. However non-hsnl regs or guys who are high maintenance may get bumped from the pool.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Admo View Post
Most of the new guys and all of the guys who haven't shipped escrow yet got bumped to this second pool. Check the "PAID" listing in the OP graphic to see which pool you're in.
.
Admo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2021, 10:15 PM   #68
marknfw
<place holder>
 
marknfw's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 8,552
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

I guess having a 1 in all my squares makes it easy to check. One win in the books already.
marknfw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2021, 11:00 AM   #69
golddog
veteran
 
golddog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: In the beer line
Posts: 2,997
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

GaTech scored one too many.

As was mentioned in another thread, being in this makes me hope for the weirdest outcomes.

"OK, if Purdue just goes scoreless in OT, and N Tx scores four... (or whatever it was)"
golddog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2021, 07:23 PM   #70
REDeYeS00
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
REDeYeS00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: came full circle and new here again
Posts: 13,442
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by Admo View Post
Added to OP, hope the language is clear.

Everyone in the pool has 48 hours to request a refund if you don't agree to this rules change. After 48 hours, we'll scramble the grid and pick squares.

--

RULES ADDENDUM FOR FORFEITS OR CANCELLATIONS
  1. If a single game is cancelled or forfeited, that game's payout will be awarded on the next game upstream in that branch of the bracket. Payout will be based on the halftime score instead of final score.
  2. If the tournament gets cancelled mid-round, all remaining payouts will be evenly distributed to game winners in that current round of the tournament.
  3. If the tournament gets cancelled in between rounds, all remaining payouts will be evenly distributed to game winners in the previous round of the tournament.
  4. If the tournament gets cancelled before starting, all entries will be refunded.
Quote:
Originally Posted by REDeYeS00 View Post
acknowledged and agreed
looks like Oregon - VCU will be ruled an 'uncontested game' with Oregon moving to the next round.
REDeYeS00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2021, 08:16 PM   #71
marknfw
<place holder>
 
marknfw's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 8,552
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Didn't even get out of the first round without a forfeit.

"If a single game is cancelled or forfeited, that game's payout will be awarded on the next game upstream in that branch of the bracket. Payout will be based on the halftime score instead of final score."

So, upstream means that the halftime score of Kansas/Eastern Wash is what we're looking at for the Oregon/VCU money? Or is it halftime of the next Oregon game?

Edit: Or is halftime of the GC/Iowa game?
marknfw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2021, 08:23 PM   #72
REDeYeS00
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
REDeYeS00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: came full circle and new here again
Posts: 13,442
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

seems pretty clear 'the next game upstream in that branch of the bracket' starts with Oregon's first round branch and will be the halftime score of Oregon's second round game.
REDeYeS00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2021, 12:04 AM   #73
Admo
veteran
 
Admo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,954
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Quote:
Originally Posted by REDeYeS00 View Post
seems pretty clear 'the next game upstream in that branch of the bracket' starts with Oregon's first round branch and will be the halftime score of Oregon's second round game.


Yes.
Admo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2021, 07:26 PM   #74
marknfw
<place holder>
 
marknfw's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: DFW
Posts: 8,552
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

Thank you Baylor for making the rest of the tourney a freeroll.
marknfw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 11:51 PM   #75
TeeJayOrTJ
Pooh-Bah
 
TeeJayOrTJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: blogging
Posts: 5,382
Re: *** 2021 HSNL March Madness Squares Pool ***

I would like to protest and say Baylor shoulda been 1 overall seed and I should win the squares. TIA
TeeJayOrTJ is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2008-2020, Two Plus Two Interactive