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08-23-2019 , 11:30 AM

GatorXP

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Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,887

Playing 2/5 in for nearly 1400, table change to a mandatory straddle table with several large fishies and
run it up to 2600.

Hero in the SB with A

3 limps and hero makes it $80

LoJack and HiJack both call which are also both the two largest fishies at the table. Dont have too much history with either, LoJack is a complete drooler and have even less history with Hijack, standard loose passive fishy as far as i can tell.

Flop $260
Q

Hero leads for $210, both fishies call
$890 Turn K

Hero Checks
LoJack Jams for $370
Hijack Calls
Pot is $1630 and the Hijack has $890 behind and Hero covers

Hero?

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08-23-2019 , 02:13 PM

Javanewt

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Wow. Kind of a sick spot.

Weak as is seems, I might fold unless Hijack is passive and will check most rivers -- unless he is ahead. Flatting is OK, I guess, but I'm just not sure we can beat both of them even now.

Jamming doesn't seem to do much good unless HJ will fold a K or call with worse, and we have no idea. Plus, LJ might have hit already.

Pre and flop are standard.

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08-24-2019 , 12:37 AM

Imaginary F(r)iend

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This seem like a stove problem.

Obviously the options are between call and fold. You need 18.5% to call if I've done my maths right.

You have like 19.5 % against two very wide ranges so call. Fold river to any aggression. You're most likely going to lose but it's EV+ to call.

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08-25-2019 , 11:31 AM

bailashtoreth

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Originally Posted by Imaginary F(r)iend

Really? Hero is +ev here? What are the ranges of hands lj jams and hj calls the jam with? They're not the same range. It's probably 90 to 95% that at least one of them has a K or better.

Once there is a caller in front, this is a mandatory fold. You get to see the winner's cards here no matter what. Just fold. Sometimes you fold the best hand. Usually you are way behind something stupid like K6o.

Edit: Do you want to be the guy who says, well, the odds say I have to call, only to be shown the inevitable K? The second caller who doesn't have tp or better in the situation is throwing his money away almost every time.

Last edited by bailashtoreth; 08-25-2019 at 11:43 AM.

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08-26-2019 , 09:34 AM

the real mg0698

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Besides the Kh I think this is possibly the worse turn. I think we can honestly just fold turn.

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08-26-2019 , 09:53 AM

Imaginary F(r)iend

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Originally Posted by bailashtoreth

Really? Hero is +ev here? What are the ranges of hands lj jams and hj calls the jam with? They're not the same range. It's probably 90 to 95% that at least one of them has a K or better.

There are two flush draws. 90 % of them having a K or better seems a bit high but not that far from the truth. There are two flush draws, a couple straight draws, T9 type of hands that these guys could spew with I'm playing pure odds.

20 % isn't a lot. Against a KJ,KT type of hand you already have 15 % (not that simple in a 3-way). So yes, I will be the guy who calls here and wins 1/5 of the times at best.

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