Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 120.49 BB (VPIP: 31.01, PFR: 25.95, 3Bet Preflop: 17.91, Hands: 167)
BB: 85.13 BB (VPIP: 22.45, PFR: 10.20, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 50)
UTG: 114.14 BB (VPIP: 26.47, PFR: 17.16, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 209)
MP: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 20.72, PFR: 15.99, 3Bet Preflop: 8.11, Hands: 705)
CO: 104.91 BB (VPIP: 21.52, PFR: 13.45, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 234)
Hero (BTN): 207.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 8

UTG raises to 2.11 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6.5 BB, fold, BB calls 5.5 BB, UTG calls 4.39 BB

Flop: (20 BB, 3 players) 5 8 A
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 7 BB, BB calls 7 BB, fold

Turn: (34 BB, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero bets 16.6 BB, BB raises to 50.05 BB, [color=red]Hero ?

UTG was a pretty solid player capable of playing creatively. Limited reads on BB, but seemed nitty preflop.

Gross spot on the turn here. Should we fold? Should we have checked back in the first place?

cool hand. i like sizing flop bigger multiway, at least 13bb+ maybe more like 16?

a lot of your {suited 3b pre range vs UTG} should be Ax hands and board obv. blocks Ac. as a result BB has more flushes than you but also some natural bluffs like JJc. plus there’s the chance he has TT / AT.

I’m folding but it can’t be that bad to call. No idea if check or bet turn is better; i’m probably mixing in both.

3b is wild. I'm checking back turn and calling non club rivers but damn its close

I think flop size is good. There isn't equity to be had on this board so 1/3 is plenty.

Turn I'd size a bit bigger, you are targeting Ax and QQc JJc type hands. And you want to jam rivers (or at least threaten to). I usually 2barrel 22bb. Turn check back seems really bad. Just misses value.

His raise is gross indeed. I can't see him bluffing anything. Maybe QQc JJc.. but who just raises that? Maybe he has AK and just decides to ship it though.


Strong hands are quite limited, a few KQ, QJ flushes. A few TT that called flop. Maybe AA?

If we give him #1 TT, #1 flush, #1 AK, you are at exactly 33% equity. That means you aren't quite committed, but it's close.

Given his stats and stack size is funny, I think more random moves are possible (AQs, AJs..), so shipping the last 17bb in seems best.

Results were we called + got it in on river and he ended up flipping over 55.

Usually I assume cold caller ranges don't possess flushes because they're so centered on 99-JJ and AQ (a decent portion of players CC exactly this range). Especially since ur 3-betting a utg opener, he should not be peeling QJs type hands. But he's probably a fish so maybe he's wider than avg and can have flushes, 88 etc. I would be very suspicious, but fold because even though he's repping super thin for value, the bluffs just don't make sense. He's really making a play with JcJ? Unlikely as internet said. I puke fold

I'd get it in here, because of AK.

I would incline towards fold.

BB from OOP is hardly bluffing here, i mean very less probability. I don't think BB is re-raising with anything lesser than a set here. His CC range would be small PP hoping to set mine and broadway suited connectors KQ, QJ(maybe?), Kts and then combos of AQ, AJ, maybe AK or AA. QQ+ is a 3 bet preflop, 99-JJ ya its a CC too.

But lookig at the texture of the board, we are crushed here when BB re-raises.

I would size flop more maybe 50% and check back turn.

I would incline towards fold.

BB from OOP is hardly bluffing here, i mean very less probability. I don't think BB is re-raising with anything lesser than a set here. His CC range would be small PP hoping to set mine and broadway suited connectors KQ, QJ(maybe?), Kts and then combos of AQ, AJ, maybe AK or AA. QQ+ is a 3 bet preflop, 99-JJ ya its a CC too.

But lookig at the texture of the board, we are crushed here when BB re-raises.

I would size flop more maybe 50% and check back turn.

lol just no.... maaybe he has AKc but nobody that has nitty/passive stats is taking this line with AK. If they're raising somewhere it's on the flop or on a blank/K turn and not on one that brings in a flush. What do you get value against by raising with AK here in villains shoes?

I may fold because there are sets and flushes that beat you. If its not a club, I jam.

fold, but if you want to continue, call>jam, that way you lose less vs sets on 4 to flush rivers.

IsIf you're not gonna get it in there I'm not sure why you played A8 pre in the first place right?

Odd spot. It's just that I don't know why you wouldn't at least call down here if you chose to play A8 so aggressive lol.

When I get beat by a disguised set I'm always unsure how much to blame myself.

I am a set miner.

He's not too terribly nitty. he has played 22% of hands and less than half of those have been raised. He could be the type of player to cold call with a lot of stuff. AK might not be getting value, but I have seen people do this kind of thing.

I expect cold callers to mostly be fishier players and willing to stack off easier. There is quite a bit of stuff that our opponent can have. 97, QQ or JJ with a club. 44, because it is so close to 55. etc...



It is a bluff preflop, it hopes to get folds.

The card on the turn significantly weakens the hand because of the flush possibilities for the opponent. Though it was strong on the flop we can't ignore the way the hand has changed on the turn.

Surprised this is still getting discussed but yeah A8s is in our bluffing range here pre. Obv don’t expect a cold call pre from the blinds most of the time.