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I mean my god wtf is wrong with these ppl. noodle told you to get better as a humorist. he did not even come close to what you accused him of.

I think, beyond the blatant lying and misrepresentation of reality, a major problem with the conservatives is that they are absolutely hoping and praying to be persecuted. it appears to be a complex.

11-12-2017 , 02:48 PM

#727

jalfrezi

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rafiki got let off lightly considering how lame and 70s old school his humour is.

11-12-2017 , 02:52 PM

#728

bundy5

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Originally Posted by BOIDS

after much careful thinking i've figured out the problem: the right wing lads are BORING. when is the last time broadwayslushy made anyone laugh? never b/c he's too busy complaining about something

this is what passes for a high quality right wing joke:

Q: why did the millennial cry?
A: because government assistance has made her lazy and it has led to an unfulfilling life

the rest of us are BORED by you. solution: be less BORING

If you disagree with our views in theory, how can anything we say make you laugh?

Last edited by bundy5; 11-12-2017 at 03:06 PM.

11-12-2017 , 02:52 PM

#729

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11-12-2017 , 02:53 PM

#730

bundy5

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Originally Posted by batair

I have some views on the left and right. Think of me as a free market capitalist with a big safety net and not many regs except environmental and jail for the owners who poison. If that is a lefty ok.

You are overstating things. As long as people are just getting exiled the only damage is you dont get to post about politics in a subforum on a poker internet site. Its not stopping you from contributing to the rest of the forum. Or stopping anyone else who has.

I would call you a typical leftie with that sort of position.

11-12-2017 , 02:56 PM

#731

Victor

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

I did expect it to end this way. It's become an opportunity for those exiled from politics to argue with the politics regulars who are willing to engage them.

So that's why it's time to close it. The thread served its purpose.

I'll sum up.

There was an idea put forth that political discussion, outside of the politics forum was negatively impacting many of the other forums. That was demonstrably true in BFI. Look at the health insurance thread, for example.

you really surprised a health care thread got politarded up?

and really are we supposed to just let conservative posters spew their lies and not refute it?

11-12-2017 , 02:58 PM

#732

bundy5

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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Even self-depreciating stereotype humor is stigmatized.

The only acceptable form mockery appears to be direct and personal based in suspicion and delivered by accusation. It's not funny or educational at all!

Yes based on that Augie example you are right.

11-12-2017 , 03:04 PM

#733

bundy5

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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy

"Nazi" is the latest in a list of go to put-down words leftists throw around willy nilly to stigmatize their opponents.

It gets really boring.

And actually, from what I can work out, used in such a way so as to trivialise the holocaust.

11-12-2017 , 03:06 PM

#734

Mat Sklansky

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Originally Posted by Victor

you really surprised a health care thread got politarded up?

and really are we supposed to just let conservative posters spew their lies and not refute it?

not surprised. and i leave it to the bfi mods to decide how much of that discussion they wish to allow. but my personal preference is that the politics of healthcare discussion take place in separate threads.

for instance, BFI could have decided to start a different thread and moved all the posts over there. or they could have deleted all of them.

i'm still hoping that someone will tell me their experience with an epo vs an hmo. because having lost my insurance in NV, i need to make a decision pretty quick.

in the short term, in that thread, i don't care about the opinions of people who want to tell me whose fault it is i lost my insurance. i'd like to get input that will help me simply make a good decision.

11-12-2017 , 03:07 PM

#735

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

So why not give us an alternative politics forum that we can participate in? Obviously it would need to be moderated effectively and preferably impartially.

The huge over-reaction to the old P7 still bemuses me somewhat.

11-12-2017 , 03:08 PM

#736

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Ban the politics forum. Very simple. The vast majority of people have made up their minds politically by the time they are an adult. No amount of discourse, civil or otherwise, will change their minds. Hence, the politics forums devolve into typical **** like this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bundy5

I would call you a typical leftie with that sort of position.

Ban exiled posters who cant help themselves in other forums.

11-12-2017 , 03:12 PM

#737

Loki

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Originally Posted by Derp!

You seem to think that's the main point of the politics forum. I would suggest you consider the possibility that you're not right 100% of the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bundy5

And actually, from what I can work out, used in such a way so as to trivialise the holocaust.

what on earth are you talking about?

Your fellow right-wing nutters are marching in Poland demanding a Muslim holocaust. How does pointing that out trivialize the holocaust?

11-12-2017 , 03:16 PM

#738

Derp!

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

You seem to think that's the main point of the politics forum. I would suggest you consider the possibility that you're not right 100% of the time.

It's either to convince others or act as an echo chamber. Either way, it's not worthwhile.

11-12-2017 , 03:23 PM

#739

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Originally Posted by juan valdez

The far left are trying to tear down everything. some are still delusional enough to call themselves liberals. chapelle is just one example of them trying to ruin comedy. they have actual lawsuits and enforced speech laws in canada over the issue

if you pay attention to the far left, its just an insanely destabilized group of bitterness and resentment. they find an excuse to kneel during the anthem, they now have representatives of the NAACP claim the anthem is racist, they tear down statues, want to change the name of schools and streets, they want to open the borders, they hate the dreaded 1% etc etc. university professors are coming out after mass shootings and declaring it because of toxic masculinity and whiteness.

they have actual bitterness and resentment towards the best example of a functioning civilization in human history. it falls well short of their hypothetical utopia. its the super sweet 16 movement. a bunch of brats screeching that their car isn't convertible.

this bitterness and resentment follows an oppression hierarchy. the white guy represents the "patriarchy" or the oppressor. this is how you get an openly racist and sexist dear white guy video on mtv. the far left are so bitter, resentful, ignorant, and arrogant, that they can't even see that they are behaving like bigots but can only justify it through claims of oppression. you can be shltty to white guys, because white privilege. there are plenty of reasons the second worst candidate in history won the election, but a big one is telling millions of white people about their white privilege. not only is it bigoted, but its insanely insulting to the millions of white people looking around and saying to themselves, lol wheres my privilege? the far left loves the argument "but not all" , especially after a suicide bombing but can't seem to grasp the concept outside of their oppression hierarchy. people screeching about bathrooms and pronouns. its non stop. none of it is being done in a civil and compassionate manner. its claims of virtue used to justify their bitterness, resentment, and never ending people and things to be outraged about and attack.

obviously kramers career was 'black balled' because the black people that run hollywood would not tolerate that even though the public votes with their dollars and white people love it when other white people go on n bomb rants. oddly the same hollywood elites were getting heat for not enough black oscars

Lol umad

11-12-2017 , 03:31 PM

#740

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Originally Posted by bundy5

I would call you a typical leftie with that sort of position.

Cool. Whatever man.

Also conservatives suck at comedy and most art. Its well established.

Last edited by batair; 11-12-2017 at 03:41 PM.

11-12-2017 , 03:32 PM

#741

Victor

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Originally Posted by Derp!

It's either to convince others or act as an echo chamber. Either way, it's not worthwhile.

not really. its to exchange news and ideas. its to find links to interesting articles. its to refine viewpoints. its to interact with interesting or smart people. its even to dunk on fools.

and plenty of people have mentioned how their views have changed.

11-12-2017 , 03:36 PM

#742

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Originally Posted by augie_

who knew the virtue signaling SJWs would shift from 'you are racist' to 'you suck at helping the blind'

ya, already figured that out when i got whacked with a cane. i'll do better next time, but i won't try to help that guy again.

at least you're not as bad as those monsters who comment on videos of deaf people getting a new hearing aid to inform us that not every deaf person wants to hear, and being deaf doesn't mean you're broken or defective.

augie_, I have no idea if you are a racist or not, but if you think that there exists an anecdote that you can tell that would "exonerate you from racism" you're a ****ing moron.

11-12-2017 , 03:43 PM

#743

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass

Yeah, no ****. Don't expect me to participate in your next bad-faith go around of "let's talk about this." I think you just like to stir up drama for your own amusement, and I'm tired of wasting my time on this bull****.

Of course mods can post all sorts of racism and sympathize with neo nazis that literally committed an act of domestic terrorism! They should use whatever judgement they prefer, there are no site wide rules! Err uh, of course you cannot be allowing discussion of Tor or ad blockers, THAT'S ****ING OUT OF LINE!

Done with this bull**** Mat. Waste of time.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass

So which forum or forums specifically can I teach people how to circumvent account bans by using Tor, and teach them how to block advertisements with ad blocking web browser extensions? Surely there has to be forums where that is appropriate if there are forums were racism and neo nazi sympathizing is acceptable.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass

Oh ok, so I'm wrong for thinking that you editing my post means that I'm right that racism and neo nazi sympathizing is totally allowed, but teaching people to circumvent bans with Tor and block ads with ad blockers is not, I'm totally wrong here, but you give me a 20 point infraction and state, "yup, you're right."

So just to be clear: racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia - totally cool if mods are cool with it

Teaching people to circumvent bans with Tor, and teaching them to block ads with ********** - not cool anywhere, totally inappropriate.

So how does a person get a perma ban these days? I'm leaning heavily towards doing that.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass

I've have the perma ban. This account, as well as qu0terkid, as well as every account that has ever used a Tor exit node IP address, as well as a JonDo proxy exit IP address. I literally have 50+ accounts here.

Solid posting.

11-12-2017 , 03:44 PM

#744

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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty

Noodle, you misread what I was saying, predictably. I am saying they can be characterized as NAZIs, but I have not read any quote regarding kioshk. You're trolling. Post reported.

You know good and well that mods usually delete these types of posts.

11-12-2017 , 03:45 PM

#745

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I miss P7, this ****s hilarious.

Cows meltdown was ****ing beautiful. Haven't seen one like that in awhile.

11-12-2017 , 03:49 PM

#746

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Originally Posted by kerowo

gregorio, I'd hope you consider extending the ban on Kioshk since his is a ****ing nazi. That's the lens all his political talks should be viewed through.

Seriously - the site is going to allow this sort of post from a mod without even applying a cite or ban approach? ffs kiosk wasn't even a regular in Pv7.0

At the very least it's the lens all of kerowo's high quality posting should be viewed through.

11-12-2017 , 03:51 PM

#747

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Originally Posted by auralex14

I miss P7, this ****s hilarious.

Cows meltdown was ****ing beautiful. Haven't seen one like that in awhile.

Ah you never turned around to see the frowns
On the jugglers and the clowns when they all did tricks for you
You never understood that it ain't no good
You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you

11-12-2017 , 03:52 PM

#748

Mat Sklansky

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

This particular thread has 10 minutes to shutdown. You should probably start a new thread demanding kerowo be demodded.

11-12-2017 , 03:53 PM

#749

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

As opposed to your P8.8 'cite or you're a very naughty boy' approach?

11-12-2017 , 03:54 PM

#750

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass

Over 20 minutes, I'm getting very impatient. Better just go ahead and do it Mat, it's for the best. It probably wouldn't be good to have an impulsive hacker with a vendetta sticking around with an active account and the ability to post information about your site's vulnerabilities all over the forums.

I've gone ahead and fired up Kali, and I'm updating it. Hopefully by the time I get my packages, OpenVAS, and my OWASP ZAP modules updated, I'll be perma banned. To be clear, perma ban me and nothing happens.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass

Breaking: A subjectivist is subjective. Story at 11!

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Originally Posted by MikeTheHusband

Mat, you are so utterly and completely INCOMPETENT! "Oh, hold on now, we can't go banning or demodding neo nazi sympathizing racists that advocate for whites only lunch counters. That's just not going to happen."

"... oh but let's just go ahead and ban ****ing victims of domestic assault, like Kristy."

Ban GiantWalleye, fine, that's a good idea. But don't ban his ****ing wife, who is the victim of his domestic abuse. She has a large support base of friends here, and you want to flat out ****ing ban her while white supremacists run rampant on the forums? WTF are you thinking man? Utter ****ing incompetence.

You couldn't manage your way out of a wet paper bag.

I think you should go back to trying to be an actor, because at least you'd have a piece of paper telling you exactly what to do and say, but you'd still **** it up.

"No Mat, it's pronounced 'rooooooooode, not ro-aaaaaaaaad'."

How you managed to beat millions others of Davids sperm in the race to life, I have no ****ing idea, but I can tell you one thing: part of the reason for the decline of this site can be found by looking into one of these magical devices.

Spoiler:

Utter. ****ing. Incompetence. Someone ban this account too ffs, holy ****.

Wow, only 10 minutes.

Well, ACEG, if you're listening, I just want to say **** you for your part in getting P7 shut down.

Also, your posting is consistently terrible, and your blowup/exit from the forum will make it a better place. Peace.

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