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11-12-2017 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
I'm finding it hard to believe you ever worked as a comedian. That just sounds dumb.
Oh I see you haven't come across any Eddy B posts.
11-12-2017 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
It's interesting to watch a room divided from that side of the lights. I've seen pros do religious or racial bits that completely split a room in two.

One of the funniest bits I've ever seen to this day was a guy (his name escapes me) who did an impression of the previous old pope. The only way I could describe it to you is that he acted like a mumbling disabled person the whole time, and showed that this was the leader of the catholic church. To this day I've never seen a room split like that. The side I was sitting on was laughing uncontrollably. Just banging on tables, grown men were falling off their chairs roaring with laughter. The other side of the room was total silence and angry death stares. And it was so stark that the comic actually brought it up.

I've never stopped to wonder why some people get offended by jokes that others laugh at, although now I find the idea interesting. I've just decided that the ones who get offended don't get to dictate what's funny to the other side of the room. Life's too short to miss out on laughing that hard.
Kinison, Murphy, Pryor, Chapelle, and others are hilarious to me. What you described doesn't even sound humorous. It sounds like a forced meme.
11-12-2017 , 09:43 AM
As always, the idea that there are equally legitimate "sides" is how right wing *******s win before the debate begins. They are of course the ultimate snowflakes; their bitching is absolutely endless when...their positions are accurately described.
11-12-2017 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Kinison, Murphy, Pryor, Chapelle, and others are hilarious to me. What you described doesn't even sound humorous. It sounds like a forced meme.
You'll find that describing jokes in writing, and telling jokes, are two very different things. Comedic timing and delivery are pretty important parts of a joke's anatomy. Now that said I have no doubt that you'd find the joke unfunny even with my best Colonel Klink impression. But I don't think I'd ever tell a racial joke and expect it to go over well with everyone. Seems like an impossible ask.

Last edited by rafiki; 11-12-2017 at 10:08 AM.
11-12-2017 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
As always, the idea that there are equally legitimate "sides" is how right wing *******s win before the debate begins. They are of course the ultimate snowflakes; their bitching is absolutely endless when...their positions are accurately described.
ya bolded is the truth. they incessantly complain and argue that the rules should not apply to them.

and if a viewpoint that they dont agree with is presented, they incessantly argue that it should be shut down or removed.

the lack of self awareness is truly staggering.
11-12-2017 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Their jokes would be what?
The DNC leadership walks into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, a joke?"

How many Democrats does it take to change a lightbulb?
Solyndra!

Knock knock!
Who's there?
Ben.
Ben who?
Benghazi!
11-12-2017 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Kinison, Murphy, Pryor, Chapelle, and others are hilarious to me. What you described doesn't even sound humorous. It sounds like a forced meme.
Somewhat related to our previous point: what did you think of the spanking Chapelle took on twitter after his last netflix specials? He was eviscerated for the rape jokes. "He rapes, but he saves", etc...

I thought that bit was amazing, and had a real hard time connecting the dots between Chapelle being a comedian, and Chapelle promoting rape culture.

This sort of thing: http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2...lle-rape-jokes and https://theestablishment.co/dave-cha...y-60fc9f8c7a41
11-12-2017 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Is it just me or is this incredible?


Defensive response to stigmatizing claims isn't that incredible.
11-12-2017 , 10:16 AM
Like the standard pattern is for some right wing slappy to drive by with nonsense, get called out, be unable to support their position, then plug their ears, stomp their feet and scream "keep it up if you want another term of Trump."
11-12-2017 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Somewhat related to our previous point: what did you think of the spanking Chapelle took on twitter after his last netflix specials? He was eviscerated for the rape jokes. "He rapes, but he saves", etc...

I thought that bit was amazing, and had a real hard time connecting the dots between Chapelle being a comedian, and Chapelle promoting rape culture.

This sort of thing: http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2...lle-rape-jokes and https://theestablishment.co/dave-cha...y-60fc9f8c7a41
I don't think all jokes by the comedians I listed are funny. And they are/were big boys and can get blowback when they go too far.
11-12-2017 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Defensive response to stigmatizing claims isn't that incredible.
I don't even think I need to be defensive anymore. I'm kind of taking to being a racist now. And since I guess I am one, I can tell you my best ever slappy story.

My first ever trip to Vegas must have been circa 2004. My friends and I were walking down the strip in June at 3pm like idiot Vegas noobs. It's ****ing hot, whatever amount of Fahrenheit is really hot. 95-100? When you come from up north that's hot. We're melting as we pass O'shea's (is that still there?), and this young fellow with dark skin and dark hair walks over and hands me something that looked like 3-4 cards. Like any polite Canadian I accept his offering. Turns out this was my first ever encounter with a "slappy". We called the Mexican-ish fellows handing out those escort cards "slappies" because they would slap them in their hands to catch your attention. I'm sure we would have called them slappies had they been Swedish or Welsh. Now there's a chance they were Indian-ish and just had a fascination with Latin American culture, but with Nevada's proximity to Mexico I think the leap to "Mexican" wasn't a huge one. By the time I realized I was holding some pretty pornographic material in my hands, 3-4 other slappies, including the head slappy (who had been chilling in the shade) descended on me and were stuffing dozens of cards in my hands (they probably have quotas?). Once I had about 30-40 cards in my hands I started laughing hysterically. Moms with strollers were looking at me like I was some vile pervert just flush with porno cards. My laughing (which included tears at this point) started to make the slappies laugh as hard as I was. Our laughter drew the attention of another (rival?) crew of slappies who came over and handed me twice as many cards. That provoked even more laughter for everyone including the husbands of a lot of angry wives witnessing the inappropriate moment among families. We had so much fun that I mentioned to the slappies that I'd buy them beers or waters on our way back down the strip in an hour. So an hour later we enjoyed some cold ones on the rooftop sportsbar by Oshea's (is that still there?). They gave me a bit of Vegas 101, I used some of my highschool Spanish to their delight, and that was that.

I've never bought 9-10 beers for any white strangers in my life, but noooow I suspect that's because I'm Jewish as opposed to some sort of racism defence.

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bonus prank: if they still hand those cards out, collect 30-40 of them and keep them hidden. Then when you leave with your friends at the airport, stick them in the plastic tray your friend uses to put his keys/change/etc.. It's always hilarious

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11-12-2017 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Like the standard pattern is for some right wing slappy to drive by with nonsense, get called out, be unable to support their position, then plug their ears, stomp their feet and scream "keep it up if you want another term of Trump."
lol I was typing up my post before I saw this. Too funny. I promise my use of it means "to slap".

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Originally Posted by Paul D
I don't think all jokes by the comedians I listed are funny. And they are/were big boys and can get blowback when they go too far.
But was Chapelle promoting rape culture in your estimation? There's no wrong answer here, I'm not going to pounce on you if your answer is "yes".

Last edited by rafiki; 11-12-2017 at 11:05 AM.
11-12-2017 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Is it just me or is this incredible?
That, plus "I used to be a stand-up comic" quickly followed by "I think posting memes of black women snapping their fingers is funny" and "I make jokes about the small penis on the Asian guy in our fantasy football league. I'm not going to stop doing that" is indeed top-notch stuff.
11-12-2017 , 11:10 AM
Are we really not allowed to make small penis Asian jokes with people we've known half our lives?

Man I'm starting to think you guys are the ones missing out. Btw does it matter if stats back it up? Totally irrelevant to the discussion, just interesting that someone actually looked at it more closely.

http://brobible.com/life/article/ave...is-size-study/ and http://www.iflscience.com/health-and...und-the-world/
11-12-2017 , 11:13 AM
It reminds me of the early phases of wil's meltdown.
11-12-2017 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Are we really not allowed to make small penis Asian jokes with people we've known half our lives?

Man I'm starting to think you guys are the ones missing out. Btw does it matter if stats back it up? Totally irrelevant to the discussion, just interesting that someone actually looked at it more closely.

http://brobible.com/life/article/ave...is-size-study/ and http://www.iflscience.com/health-and...und-the-world/


Even self-depreciating stereotype humor is stigmatized.

The only acceptable form mockery appears to be direct and personal based in suspicion and delivered by accusation. It's not funny or educational at all!
11-12-2017 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
same thing we always do. Try to take over the world.
Fixed that for you
11-12-2017 , 11:22 AM
Rafiki, srs question: do you think you have some implicit biases ?
11-12-2017 , 11:23 AM
Just food for thought, but an end to racial segregation at a personal level can involve making friends among formerly segregated people. I'm glad folks have black friends. Make more, be a good friend and listen to them well.
11-12-2017 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Are we really not allowed to make small penis Asian jokes
Is anyone stopping you?
11-12-2017 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Rafiki, srs question: do you think you have some implicit biases ?
Sup Gizmo! Man we haven't talked in a long time. How things? Have occasionally wondered how you've been. We don't post in the same places very often anymore.

To answer your question, I wonder how I would behave walking through the wrong parts of Compton or Watts very late at night on my own. Would I be nervous? I'm torn between if that would actually be unwise, or just something the world hypes up as unwise. I've had people who know from experience tell me it's unwise, but I have no real way of knowing if that's true. So I don't know if that's a bias or something else. But I'm inclined to think that I probably have a bias there. Now that said I've felt exactly that way when I was in the wrong part of some pretty bad white hoods too (one very recently). So I'm not sure if the bias is racial, or related to classes. Both? I'm open to discussing it though.

Btw sorry if those are/were cliche 90's movie tough hoods. Sort of grew up on Cube etc...

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ps: how underrated is MC Ren? The security is maximum and that's a law
R-E-N spells Ren but I'm raw

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11-12-2017 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
It reminds me of the early phases of wil's meltdown.
its really bizarre. no one called him a racist. even in the posts he linked where he claimed to have been attacked for being racist, no one did that.

the only mention was that he had a 6 year old infraction for racism.

and now hes posing long diatribes where he mocks ppl for calling him racist, despite that never happening. it seems at this point that he strongly desires that people do indeed call him racist so that he can make a big deal about it.

just a tremendous victim complex.
11-12-2017 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Are we really not allowed to make small penis Asian jokes with people we've known half our lives?

Man I'm starting to think you guys are the ones missing out. Btw does it matter if stats back it up? Totally irrelevant to the discussion, just interesting that someone actually looked at it more closely.

http://brobible.com/life/article/ave...is-size-study/ and http://www.iflscience.com/health-and...und-the-world/
you are allowed to do whatever the hell you please. but others are allowed to think of you a certain way. they may even consider you racist. and they may be more inclined to actually

and realize in this case, you are doing more than joking with your friend. you are perpetuating a stereotype, unprovoked, amongst a large group of people, most of whom are unknown. some very well could be offended by your assertions about penis size.
11-12-2017 , 12:00 PM
Speaking of comedians whose jokes really split the room, I bet the black half of the room wasn’t laughing when Kramer lost his **** on stage. But the white half probably wasn’t offended so no harm no foul. Can’t try to please everyone, life is too short to try to write actual good comedy.

Goodness, could there be lazier thinking? Yes, if your jokes are only funny to at most half your audience because they rely on massively outdated stereotypes, the problem is you, not the half of your audience that isn’t laughing. Take some personal responsibility and get better as a humorist.
11-12-2017 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Sup Gizmo! Man we haven't talked in a long time. How things? Have occasionally wondered how you've been. We don't post in the same places very often anymore.

To answer your question, I wonder how I would behave walking through the wrong parts of Compton or Watts very late at night on my own. Would I be nervous? I'm torn between if that would actually be unwise, or just something the world hypes up as unwise. I've had people who know from experience tell me it's unwise, but I have no real way of knowing if that's true. So I don't know if that's a bias or something else. But I'm inclined to think that I probably have a bias there. Now that said I've felt exactly that way when I was in the wrong part of some pretty bad white hoods too (one very recently). So I'm not sure if the bias is racial, or related to classes. Both? I'm open to discussing it though.

Btw sorry if those are/were cliche 90's movie tough hoods. Sort of grew up on Cube etc...

Spoiler:
ps: how underrated is MC Ren? The security is maximum and that's a law
R-E-N spells Ren but I'm raw


Gangsta rap made you do it. WTF do you people want?!?!The contemporary city used to falsely associate people of color with criminality and violence generalizations is Chicago. You may wanna talk with microbet if he is still around. He can tell ya first-hand about roaming L.A. without much practical trouble.

      
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