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10-06-2017 , 06:52 PM
You do you Howard, you do you.
10-06-2017 , 07:04 PM
If 27o says he's contained, I say wrap him up.
10-06-2017 , 07:04 PM
rep fully deserves containment and is pretty fortunate to have avoided it sooner.
10-06-2017 , 07:47 PM
I have forgotten, was the 600 post derail about whether it was fair to assume rep's annoying neighbors were Republicans in the Babs thread or was that elsewhere?
10-06-2017 , 07:49 PM
Flanders,

Babs thread and it was PAINFUL
10-06-2017 , 07:50 PM
Op, how about posting good in the containment thread for a while, getting another chance to expand?

That I'd call victory!
10-06-2017 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
Okay in all fairness to me and to Babs I didnt call myself a dirty Jew, I didn't even see the post as Babs ninja edited it.

A Anon poster saw I was already on my horse about the holiday and he private messaged me a screenshot of Babs original post. I got pissed that Babs posted it at all instead of giving him credit for catching himself, and down the rabbit hole we went.
The only reason he "caught himself" is because it was pointed out to him how inappropriate his post was.
10-06-2017 , 08:01 PM
Greg, also fair
10-06-2017 , 10:07 PM
HT having dinner or whatever with lolreplol explains a lot. Still lol HT, but at least see where it is coming from now.
10-06-2017 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Op, how about posting good in the containment thread for a while, getting another chance to expand?

That I'd call victory!
Exactly. I unexiled MLY ffs and she didn't even ask. I have nothing against you lolreplol, just don't suck.
10-07-2017 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
AFAIK rep is actually a solid (live) poker player.
for the record, i'm the only person itt who still makes his living playing online, and i'm a solid to big winner in many different formats/games

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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
Yea I think Nat got into a rut of bad posting and eating a temp ban allowed him to re-compose himself and come back as a good poster again.

Unfortunately, while rep has shown himself to be a great community contributor (hooking people up with the wagyu connection, getting in a contest with grear, meeting up with howard, etc.) he hasn't always been a good poster.

I've been willing to look the other way on his posting, because many regs are able to ignore him when he gets into flamewars, and because of his great community contributions. However, rep the poster is often quite bad, while rep the community member is often quite great.

If rep were to internalize the feedback he has gotten, reflect on it, and improve, his ceiling as a poster is quite high. Unfortunately, it's a near lock that rep will not give a **** and just leave oot in a pout.
agree with everything written except the bolded. for example-

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
personal duels are a 2-way street, but i agree with the bolded- this is potentially a character flaw of mine.
i am capable of self reflection. i recognize that i'm not perfect, i engage in plenty of ****posting/wars, i have little regard for the feelings of others and i often post in an intentionally provocative manner with the explicit intention of rustling feathers. my post volume can also be high if i'm just sitting in front of the computer taking a break between poker sessions. this can lead to some unpleasant derails that i'm sure not everybody appreciates scrolling/reading through.

that said, i think it's nice and also fair of you to point out that i'm a good "community member", because that's definitely true. i try to help people when they need or ask for it, i contribute in a substantive manner to serious discussions and while i like to rustle feathers, i make good threads (AMA, gardening, packages that snap sell-out, etc) and i also like to make people laugh, potentially at my own expense (g10 dick measuring contest, for example...how bad would it have been to lose to a dwarf?)

i push the boundaries of what's ridiculous/acceptable because that's just the type of person i am. but i'm also good hearted- a double edged sword, if you will. containing me to some ****hole thread in OOT and denying me the ability to partake in serious discussion in other forums (such as politics) is imo heavy-handed and detrimental to the forum. pretty sure if you polled regular posters in there, considerably more of them would want me to stay than want me banished. when i had an issue that i took to NVG moderation thread, we had a productive and civil discussion wherein i offered to stop posting entirely in NVG and the mods said they would rather i not do that and instead tame myself a bit because my posting can be valuable/enjoyable. i have been doing that.

27offsuit has demonstrated to me time and time again that he's just petty and vindictive, and this isn't my own personal opinion. for him to barge into babs' thread and "contain" me like he runs the place is ridiculous. dude isn't a regular in there and that thread is basically an asylum run by inmates.

while i sit here and reflect on my flaws as a poster/person, i've never once seen 27o acknowledge his own issues with respect to letting his blind rage towards me cloud his judgment. like for real this dude went off half-cocked in this very thread about how i aids up every thread in OOT when i literally only post in one of them! def haven't done any aids'ing in my gardening thread either. his perception of reality is so far off because he lets his emotions get in the way of being rational. i'm just a regular poker playing forum poster- imo it's even worse for him in his capacity as a moderator.

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Originally Posted by plaaynde
I think mods need to be civil.
and i obv agree with this. when you take on a position of "authority", you should be held to a higher standard of behavior/judgment. 27offsuit fails spectacularly in that regard imo, as evidenced by the posts i've linked to and the shared opinion of several highly regarded posters in this forum.

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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Exactly. I unexiled MLY ffs and she didn't even ask. I have nothing against you lolreplol, just don't suck.
rofl just because you say this doesn't make it true. your history clearly shows otherwise.

i'm about to embark on a 5 hr journey to do some fishing at the beach this weekend, i may or may not be popping in at all today/tmrw but i still protest the attempt at "containment", for reasons that i think are pretty obvious and well-articulated by this point.
10-07-2017 , 08:32 AM
FREE+REP!
10-07-2017 , 08:55 AM
Rep,

I don't think you are contained just to that thread. I'm pretty sure you can post anywhere else in 2p2, just if you post in OOT you are currently contained to that thread. I think anyway.

I don't really see why rep should be contained. Really the Babs thread is a ****e/freak show where anything goes. Also if people don't want a derail just stop responding and redirect the thread so it's back on track. I'm not sure what happened in the steak thread as I haven't been in there for yonks but rep is quite a solid poster in the gardening thread that he started.
10-07-2017 , 08:58 AM
I mean whats the higher priority here- being a helpful and generous community member who is a valuable contributor in serious discussions, or abstaining from engaging in periodic bouts of ****posting in non-serious threads?
10-07-2017 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
I mean whats the higher priority here- being a helpful and generous community member who is a valuable contributor in serious discussions, or abstaining from engaging in periodic bouts of ****posting in non-serious threads?
You should learn to draw the line even in such threads. Try to balance it up. Think El Diablo outlined the principles quite well earlier itt.
10-07-2017 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
i often post in an intentionally provocative manner with the explicit intention of rustling feathers.
lol.

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
i push the boundaries of what's ridiculous/acceptable because that's just the type of person i am.
rep.

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
for him to barge into babs' thread and "contain" me like he runs the place is ridiculous.
lol.


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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
but i still protest the attempt at "containment", for reasons that i think are pretty obvious and well-articulated by this point.
rep, again, this isn't an attempt at containment, it is containment.

Here's the deal rep, if you are a poster who i am moderating it pretty much falls under one category: you are a jerk. That is because I don't like jerks. Guys that intentionally attack other posters, which you freely admitted to above. Guys that push the boundaries of acceptable, which you freely admitted to above. Those are the guys I moderate. The fact is I do very, very little in terms of moderation because I actually like OOT in an organic state.
But when the odd wild jerk appears, I will be more than happy to do something about it(often at the request of other posters, like now). The babs thread is no different from any other thread in regards to inmates running the asylum, not sure how you came to that conclusion.

Last edited by 27offsuit; 10-07-2017 at 11:26 AM.
10-07-2017 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
i push the boundaries of what's ridiculous/acceptable because that's just the type of person i am.
This is like people that act like jerks saying "I'm just an honest person" trying to justify being an *******. The answer isn't people accepting you for who you are, the answer is try not to be an *******.
10-07-2017 , 12:57 PM
Rep keepin it real
10-07-2017 , 01:34 PM
Rep,

Imo the biggest issue with your posting isn't so much the stuff that 27 pointed out (which are issues you admit), it's that you get so rustled and emotional when people toss stuff back at you. That's what spirals the derails out of control, you getting so worked up.
10-07-2017 , 02:39 PM
rep can definitely be an awful poster and absolute ******* for no justifiable reason — complete with overly aggressive after-the-fact PMs if he has a beef... and let's face it, rep always seems to have a beef. Been there and unfortunately had to endure the +lolrep "posting style".

Having said that, he does seem to have the ability to calm down after awhile... but only after he has gone unneccesarilly ballistic on someone for too long and hard and then been called out for it.

I can't understand why he feels the need to be such an aggressive dickwad a-hole over nothing tho. Meh, I just shrug now knowing it's all just part of the lolrep persona.
10-07-2017 , 02:54 PM
99,

It's because he's that special combo of insensitive towards feelings of others but overly sensitive when his feelings get hurt.
10-07-2017 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
I mean whats the higher priority here- being a helpful and generous community member who is a valuable contributor in serious discussions, or abstaining from engaging in periodic bouts of ****posting in non-serious threads?
You're only contained in OOT, feel free to post elsewhere.
10-07-2017 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe
You're only contained in OOT, feel free to post elsewhere.
Like MLYLT, it's not enough for him to have only one thread made all about him.
10-07-2017 , 05:31 PM
27 is a good mod.
10-07-2017 , 05:55 PM
Calm down

      
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