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10-06-2017 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
My insults are usually at least somewhat thoughtful, clever, amusing, or otherwise sophisticated.


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you prick.
10-06-2017 , 03:56 PM
27 rubs it in when he mods. But that doesn't mean the modding decisions themselves were wrong.
10-06-2017 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
if by "repped" you mean not take your complete bull**** lying down, then yea sure
Prone or supine?
10-06-2017 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Alobar

also, pretty excited to see how this turns out, because if mods can ban people just for insulting them, Howard is ****ed.
You really think rep was contained for insulting me? I couldn't care less about insults. Also, there were no bans, even after rep auto-jumped containment.
10-06-2017 , 05:18 PM
Rep never bothers me. Like El D, I just scoot past the derails that don't interest me. More interestingly to me, I see how I have a lot of the same tendencies rep does as outlined in the reasons he is a bad poster list. I guess it is like a scorpion being immune to the sting of its own kind, so I don't really see the need to punish rep for what is a fairly mild (imo) and common defect in online discourse. That said, at a certain point it's kinda dumb when people tell you over and over again that you are crossing boundaries if you don't adjust your vision to see them more clearly.

I guess what I am saying is, I get you rep. I don't know what the proper judgment is on who is right and who is even more righter, but I am going to take your containment as a deterrent to continuing some of the posting I have been "guilty" of even if I feel like it is actually mostly harmless. I know I won't be perfect in that, but I'm going to pull the line back a bit. Maybe it's worth thinking over for you too?
10-06-2017 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Rep,

I think 27 often takes things a little too personally for a mod and overreacts a bit at times. I think that probably played a factor here.

However, I think it's also completely justified by the number of people who get annoyed by your posting and have requested containment or banning.

Idgaf and find it easy to ignore you or anyone else posting badly in a thread, but I do agree that you often make threads (mma, steak, Babs, etc) bad when you get into a back and forth with someone for the reasons I outlined in the post someone quoted above. You just get too emotional and worked up and can't let anything go. And while it's usually a two-way street with fault on both sides, more often than not it's you that starts the derail/flame war/etc.

So, while I don't think your containment is necessary, I do think it's justifiable. You were essentially contained for the same reason mlylt was contained.
You do realize its all moot because rep doesn't care right?

Last edited by Yakmelk; 10-06-2017 at 05:20 PM. Reason: you old white republican rodent
10-06-2017 , 05:23 PM
Ban Yak!

Last edited by Howard Treesong; 10-06-2017 at 05:23 PM. Reason: We’re on vegetables now!
10-06-2017 , 05:45 PM
Ill be honest, Im such a freedom loving guy that Ill take a temp ban of any length to free rep even though I disagree on pretty much everything with him.

Last edited by Yakmelk; 10-06-2017 at 05:46 PM. Reason: #JESUISLOLREPLOL
10-06-2017 , 05:48 PM
I suppose rep plays poker and that's how he found his way here.

I can't imagine he's any good, because of the personality traits that make him a bad poster.

He refuses to consider he might ever be wrong, evaluate his decisions and adjust.

Which would also describe my ex-wife, which is maybe why he annoys me so ****ing much.
10-06-2017 , 05:49 PM
AFAIK rep is actually a solid (live) poker player.

Last edited by Yakmelk; 10-06-2017 at 05:49 PM. Reason: He also has a hudge dick
10-06-2017 , 05:52 PM
JESUIS+REP_LOL
10-06-2017 , 05:55 PM
Putting everyone at the table on tilt is a solid tactic.
10-06-2017 , 05:58 PM
27,

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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
Ill be honest, Im such a freedom loving guy that Ill take a temp ban of any length to free rep even though I disagree on pretty much everything with him.

Free rep, 2-year temp ban yak.
10-06-2017 , 05:59 PM
The team. Ill take one for it.
10-06-2017 , 06:15 PM
Didn't you almost get permabanned last month for your work in NVG? I always enjoy your posting there because NVG-level idiocy deserves aggressive scorn, but don't pretend that OOT is the only place your posting has come into conflict with moderators.
10-06-2017 , 06:22 PM
El Diablo,

Yes your suggestion made me aware my own humor could cause me to forfeit a contest I'd rather enjoy playing. So I backed off that PM account because the point was to get a reaction by being self-bullying, not make some political statement.

Using basically the exact name that TBabs was insinuating since several TBAB thread regulars suggested before my temp ban than I was being perhaps a bit to sensitive. I thought they'd get a kick out of seeing me take my ban and come back with some sense of humor about the whole thing.

RothchildWeseal is only a slightly veiled/censored version of the same thing.
10-06-2017 , 06:28 PM
rep spends all day going from thread to thread forcing his opinion on others with multiple quote replies, blindly choosing his position is wholly right and all others are out of wack and then trying to force arguments on people for the rest of the day. It's the worst type of attempt at "trolling" and it's wholly attention whoring. Every interaction comes back to his opinions and an attempt to garner engagement and interaction.

It's really annoying and when he started going at 27 for "following him around OOT" when 27 is mod'ing was absurd. How dare the Mod, you know, like, mod!

Rep,

Wipe the tears from your fragile cheeks, change out your pull-ups and do better.

Just do better. Though it's likely you'll just quote this and try to start some argument as if it matters.
10-06-2017 , 06:31 PM
Nat,

Your instigating followed by crying in the Babs thread was a far worse posting performance than anything I've ever seen from rep.
10-06-2017 , 06:32 PM
grunching

27 is a solid mod. I don't believe that he would use mod power just to revenge any personal disagreements. I mean he would be pretty busy in OOT if he would do that.

The quotes in the OP are pretty standard for OOT. And especially the second one is actually the truth.

27 is most of the time joking and that in the way that even I with my asperger do get it. OP ..... OP attacks for serious. At least I feel like that.
10-06-2017 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Nat,

Your instigating followed by crying in the Babs thread was a far worse posting performance than anything I've ever seen from rep.

Nat had the grace to admit his terrible posting was terrible. So he has that going for him. I’d say their pathologies are different.
10-06-2017 , 06:43 PM
Yea I think Nat got into a rut of bad posting and eating a temp ban allowed him to re-compose himself and come back as a good poster again.

Unfortunately, while rep has shown himself to be a great community contributor (hooking people up with the wagyu connection, getting in a contest with grear, meeting up with howard, etc.) he hasn't always been a good poster.

I've been willing to look the other way on his posting, because many regs are able to ignore him when he gets into flamewars, and because of his great community contributions. However, rep the poster is often quite bad, while rep the community member is often quite great.

If rep were to internalize the feedback he has gotten, reflect on it, and improve, his ceiling as a poster is quite high. Unfortunately, it's a near lock that rep will not give a **** and just leave oot in a pout.
10-06-2017 , 06:43 PM
I think mods need to be civil.
10-06-2017 , 06:44 PM
HT,

Exactly what I'd expect an old, white, republican male to say.
10-06-2017 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Nat,

Your instigating followed by crying in the Babs thread was a far worse posting performance than anything I've ever seen from rep.

Okay in all fairness to me and to Babs I didnt call myself a dirty Jew, I didn't even see the post as Babs ninja edited it.

A Anon poster saw I was already on my horse about the holiday and he private messaged me a screenshot of Babs original post. I got pissed that Babs posted it at all instead of giving him credit for catching himself, and down the rabbit hole we went.

However I didn't instigate that aids-fest '17. Another poster did but in the interest of trying to let that incident RIP I'm not going to be throwing him under the bus. Ultimately because I should have had the maturity to see: Babs may be crazy, but he caught himself in a medium where he can edit and walk back bad instinctual thoughts. I should have given him credit for it, forgiven him and let it go.

Also LOL at what you said to HT
10-06-2017 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
Yea I think Nat got into a rut of bad posting and eating a temp ban allowed him to re-compose himself and come back as a good poster again.

Unfortunately, while rep has shown himself to be a great community contributor (hooking people up with the wagyu connection, getting in a contest with grear, meeting up with howard, etc.) he hasn't always been a good poster.

I've been willing to look the other way on his posting, because many regs are able to ignore him when he gets into flamewars, and because of his great community contributions. However, rep the poster is often quite bad, while rep the community member is often quite great.

If rep were to internalize the feedback he has gotten, reflect on it, and improve, his ceiling as a poster is quite high. Unfortunately, it's a near lock that rep will not give a **** and just leave oot in a pout.

Solid post there, LL. I actually think +rep cares about this community and is a solid guy.

JESUIS+REP

      
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