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10-06-2017 , 02:13 PM
so i predicted this would happen a few weeks ago. i have a small problem with a moderator on this site who has a personal vendetta against me and is now abusing his power to extract revenge. i came into this forum in search of a platform to lodge a complaint and try to rectify the situation, but found nothing. i have sent a PM to mat, but who knows whether or not/how long it'll take for him to get back to me.

moderator "27offsuit" has a habit of following me around threads and insulting me, and now has "contained" (whatever that means) and threatened to ban me stemming from a short back and forth that we had in a thread that is primarily made for trolling (literally, thebayareabeast appreciation thread in OOT, also the only OOT thread i post in anymore). here are just a couple examples of posts he has directed towards me that i think are clearly out of line for a regular poster, much less for a moderator of the site-

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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
See, I knew you were going to start with that because that's where all dumbasses start. I do not follow you around, I was alerted to you YET AGAIN douching up OOT in a thread I don't even go in. So then I had to go see for myself, or as you call it 'follow you around'.

Now get over yourself you immature little ****ing baby and go cry somewhere else. A lol at winning the steak thread, you are such a delusional joke. Nobody likes you, bye.
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
lolreplol,

The difference is I was joking and you are an *******.
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Let me guess, you're now considering taking your wagyu ball and running home. That will show us!

Or maybe just try to stop always ending up being an *******.
i've never personally insulted him on this level, i think he is clearly overstepping some boundaries, and i want it to stop.
10-06-2017 , 02:15 PM
Oh my God you are seriously such a little *****.


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10-06-2017 , 02:16 PM
go captain your milk carton ferry and let the adults have a discussion here
10-06-2017 , 02:18 PM
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so i predicted this would happen a few weeks ago.
I predict this too on September 4.

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that is primarily made for trolling (literally, thebayareabeast appreciation thread in OOT,
Which Rep somehow finds a way to derail.
10-06-2017 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
i've never personally insulted him on this level, i think he is clearly overstepping some boundaries, and i want it to stop.

rep,

Should I post the PM you sent me?
10-06-2017 , 02:21 PM
how do you derail a thread made for trolling with trolling? i dont get it
10-06-2017 , 02:21 PM
These posts never vary in content and tone. Since replol was moaning about not getting enough swingset time at lunch recess.

Boo hoo, mosquito. You buzz around annoying people, but you're nothing new or unique.

Fly away.
10-06-2017 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
rep,

Should I post the PM you sent me?
you already tempbanned me for it and insulted me numerous times before and after, so go ahead if it makes you feel better

bottom line is rational posters can see you're holding a grudge and over-reacting here, and they have said as much already.
10-06-2017 , 02:23 PM
Containment wasn’t justified here.
10-06-2017 , 02:24 PM
I also can't think of one single thread in OOT you have posted in in the last year that you haven't derailed with your petty insults and arguments. Literally every one. That is why you are contained, because you can't control yourself. Like I said yesterday, I am no authority on good posting, but I know bad posting when I see it.
10-06-2017 , 02:25 PM
you cant think of another OOT thread because i literally dont post in any of them, genius

99% of my posting is in politics and this last post just shows how delusional and personal you've let this little "feud" of sorts become
10-06-2017 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Containment wasn’t justified here.
Howard,

rep was mentioned last night in containment thread as someone who needs containing. I looked into it and agreed. Then rep repped per usual. Not sure where you're missing the justification.
10-06-2017 , 02:29 PM
if by "repped" you mean not take your complete bull**** lying down, then yea sure
10-06-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
how do you derail a thread made for trolling with trolling? i dont get it
From a month ago

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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Banned,

Here's the thing with rep. He has a few big posting problems:

1) kinda rude/overly antagonistic
2) gets easily worked up about things
3) posts repeatedly at high frequency in threads
4) can't not respond or let anything go / always wants last word

Because of #1, a lot of people get annoyed instead of just being lolrep. And a lot of people overreact to his posting because he called them a dick/idiot/etc at some prior time and for some reason they care. So then they respond to him more aggressively than they would to another poster saying the same thing. Leading to 2-4.

So, yeah, rep is primarily to blame for AIDSing up all the threads he does, but it's largely a two-way street due to overly sensitive posters.

Rep is a far better poster than most of the people mentioned here, but I can see people's point because rep getting involved in a thread almost guarantees a tedious back and forth derail in its future.

But other than that he's a pretty solid poster imo. Basically, he's a poor man's Custer.
10-06-2017 , 02:33 PM
rep,

You should be pissed off about 'poor man's Custer' above everything else put together. You never want to go full Custer.
10-06-2017 , 02:34 PM
banned,

the most recent exchange with natamus was all of about 3 or 4 posts (edit: given recent events in that thread, i thought it was a pretty solid spot to troll him, tbh). hardly a tedious back and forth derail.

i completely ignore most of the people who address me, and i had a civil back and forth with howard about how to improve my posting because we've met IRL, and i like howard.

then 27 jumps in to roll around in the mud and levy a bunch of threats because he wants to be a big man
10-06-2017 , 02:35 PM
Just my two cents. I think the reference was to the Beast thread, where I had criticized his posting because he got in a mild personal duel with Natamus. The goal of my criticism of him was to gently encourage him to post better. I had no intention of getting him contained.

You’re the mod and can do as you wish, obviously.

I actually think it’s an interesting question as to when containment or banning yields better threads. That seems to me to be the only relevant question. I don’t know if you are taking rep’s comments personally but I would contend that mods should not do so.
10-06-2017 , 02:39 PM
it's absurd too because natamus and babs' last spat resulted in babs eating a perma', and it's partially because of me that he's even back. i always speak out when somebody crosses the line (jmakin, neil s, etc), and i've never been admonished for being wrong about it. 27o is clearly out of line here
10-06-2017 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
rep,

You should be pissed off about 'poor man's Custer' above everything else put together. You never want to go full Custer.

That was one of the funniest Robert Downey Jr lines ever.
10-06-2017 , 02:42 PM
Howard,

I have great respect for you. Your position made me examine my own.

Rep is an annoying insect. There are two ways to deal with one. Ignore it, and hope it will go away, or swat it.

Contained within OOT, to the extent he wants to post in OOT, seems fair enough to me. He's swatted but not killed. Or, like my girlfriend does, gently cupped in hand and put out the window.

Confine him to politics would be good also.
10-06-2017 , 02:46 PM
I'm late. Has he called the entire site a cabal of white Republicans yet?
10-06-2017 , 02:49 PM
I think my reaction is governed by my ideas of what is good about 2p2. It should be entertaining and provocative without being boring. And I’ll rarely if ever react out of my feelings being hurt, but I understand that others can and do react this way.

My underlying view of +rep is that he can be and is both provocative and entertaining, but becomes boring when he turns things into personal duels, and he has little or no regard for the fact that others can and do get their feelings hurt.

I also have the view that mods should take a light touch rather than a heavy one, and that social pressure does as good or better at improving post quality.
10-06-2017 , 02:51 PM
I always thought it was rep's constant infusion of politics whenever he possibly had the chance that was the most irritating
10-06-2017 , 02:54 PM
Rep,

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edit: given recent events in that thread, i thought it was a pretty solid spot to troll him, tbh
I think the problem here is you and the thread regs have a different definition of trolling.
10-06-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
how do you derail a thread made for trolling with trolling? i dont get it
Being "angry, young, liberal, white man in the South" might be considered good trolling elsewhere, but in OOT we strive to be better than schoolyard insults.

      
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