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Originally Posted by DSL32
Why not? Advertising banners all over the forum allowed WPN to do it for years.
The two things are in no way, shape, or form related. You obviously have a bone to pick with us on advertising, and there's already an ATF thread where you could do so without having to try and create some kind of weird connection. But this thread hasn't had a very clear direction for some time now, so I guess I might as well respond here.
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Originally Posted by DSL32
Unless, you're suggesting Bobo's actions and sentiments are genuinely heartfelt and lack any relation to the advertisement money that's been coming in for the past 7 years. Which, I find extremely hard to believe.
Not sure what I've personally done that's being singled out here - care to elaborate?
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Bot operators showed up to the forum talking about how much they made on WPN while Bobo and company took advertisement money from them. I'm still trying to figure out why the mods on 2 + 2 are being praised for finally cancelling WPN's ability to advertise on this site.
OK, so I'm curious how you think things should have worked. In your world, do we shut down advertising from a site as soon as some bot operators start posting about playing on a site? Do we have an investigative team that attempts to determine when a site has passed a certain threshold of good security? How, in your mind, should this really work?
And how does this compare to how things work in the rest of the advertising world? Do you believe that newspapers, magazines, TV and radio stations are constantly investigating their advertisers' business practices?
I think it's easy to sit back after the fact and say that we should have shut down advertising at point X or Y, but it's not usually as cut-and-dry at the time as it appears after the fact. I don't ask these questions in some kind of cynical or sarcastic fashion, nor to prove you wrong in some way - I genuinely would like to hear your thoughts on this with a little more depth than that "2+2 should have done this years ago".
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Joey's name and reputation is the only reason something is being done and that's scary. If you're going to thank anyone thank him.
No, it's not the only reason. That was a factor, as was FreshThyme's thread in ATF (that was what most directly got things started), as was other people who have brought attention to issues in the past. And I'm not sure why that's scary. Pretty much any time advertising has been, or will be, pulled from our site, it's likely to be because of concerns brought forth by our members, as they're the ones who are going to be having direct experiences with the poker sites. Much like when other media turns away advertising from corporations that have wronged people or engaged in unethical practices - this happens when customers' concerns become well-known.
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These mods are desperately trying to save their credibility, at this point. They could care less about anything else. Their actions over the past few years prove this fact.
First off, I assume this is just some imprecise language use - the moderators have nothing to answer for. They're volunteers posters who have been kind enough to spend some time helping out on the forums - they aren't paid, and they don't make any decisions WRT advertising.
Secondly, to say that we could
n't care less about anything else is pretty ridiculous.