Lol, this. I've eaten numerous bans for being too aggressive with the poor feelings of the right wing trolls on this site. I wonder how many ATF threads I've started about how unfair it is.

No word on adios yet, but at least the problem of preki posting in politics has been solved.

Instead of whining around here they could use their free time to look around the neighborhood to see if somebody was waiting to get rounded up. Sad!

Truth == Trolling now? I posted a link to an article that is informative.

Originally Posted by adios View Post
The Truth About Separating Kids

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1) Family units can go home quickly. The option that both honors our laws and keeps family units together is a swift return home after prosecution. But immigrant advocates hate it because they want the migrants to stay in the United States. How you view this question will depend a lot on how you view the motivation of the migrants (and how seriously you take our laws and our border).

What part of this is untrue? People that come across illegally basically have the option to be returned immediately with their children.

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2) There’s a better way to claim asylum. Every indication is that the migrant flow to the United States is discretionary. It nearly dried up at the beginning of the Trump administration when migrants believed that they had no chance of getting into the United States. Now, it is going in earnest again because the message got out that, despite the rhetoric, the policy at the border hasn’t changed. This strongly suggests that the flow overwhelmingly consists of economic migrants who would prefer to live in the United States, rather than victims of persecution in their home country who have no option but to get out.

Even if a migrant does have a credible fear of persecution, there is a legitimate way to pursue that claim, and it does not involve entering the United States illegally. First, such people should make their asylum claim in the first country where they feel safe, i.e., Mexico or some other country they are traversing to get here. Second, if for some reason they are threatened everywhere but the United States, they should show up at a port of entry and make their claim there rather than crossing the border illegally.

If a family goes to a legal port of entry and claims asylum the parents and children will not be separated. What part of this is untrue?

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3) There is a significant moral cost to not enforcing the border. There is obviously a moral cost to separating a parent from a child and almost everyone would prefer not to do it. But, under current policy and with the current resources, the only practical alternative is letting family units who show up at the border live in the country for the duration. Not only does this make a mockery of our laws, it creates an incentive for people to keep bringing children with them.

So somehow if a person is not ok with granting citizenship immediately to people who enter the country ILLEGALLY they are immoral? The USA has a process for gaining citizenship legally. Not putting people that enter illegally to at the least the back of the line is completely unfair to people who do follow the rules.

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Children should not be making this journey that is fraught with peril. But there is now a premium on bringing children because of how we have handled these cases. They are considered chits.

Are we really claiming that crossing the border illegally is actually safe for children? Really?

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In April, the New York Times reported:

Some migrants have admitted they brought their children not only to remove them from danger in such places as Central America and Africa, but because they believed it would cause the authorities to release them from custody sooner.

The NYTis quoted that there are people that actually game the system?

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Then this happens and nobody is even temp banned

I got banned for pointing how ridiculous it was for JayZ, a billionaire, to be complaining about white privilege. That is just silly demogaugery on his part. I was accused of being envious of him. Nothing could be further from the truth. I think he deserves every $1 he's earned. More power to him but claiming you've been held back by white privileged is just insane when you basically built a $billion brand from basically nothing.

As far as drive by trolling, the examples of the posting in this thread pretty much indicate that the politards don't tolerate viewpoints different than their own nor are they interested in discussing points of view that aren't supported by the left. So I ask what is there to really debate then?

Does this offer still stand?

Why do you ask? Tell you what I won't post in Politics anymore, fair enough?

I remember Matt stating that nobody would be permad for posting in politics. Have you rescinded that policy Matt?

Take your very best educated guess!

I think he should go on the record ymmv.

Are you asserting that I couldn't show you, right now, examples of debate of right-wing talking points taking place in the Politics forum in recent days?

People aren't interested in discussing those things with you because you are a ****ty poster who hasn't engaged in an actual debate since probably Obama's first term.

I don't read the forum very often actually.

Ok well I am bowing out of that forum so problem solved?

bye, get ****ed

Got ****ed last night ty.

**** off adios

also **** off bundy

Can he perma you for posting your **** political takes in ATF?

I have some ideas spicing up soccer. I mean soccer is a very boring sort to watch. I have got some ideas for making it more interesting. Stay tuned.

He can do anything he wants but I responded to a post that called for me to be banned. Ok if I defend myself?

Please elaborate on the political views that should be banned?

I didn't say your political views should be banned. I said posting your ****ty political views in ATF might necessitate a banning. We aren't here to discuss politics; that's what the politics forum is for. We're here to discuss godawful 2+2 posters, so, naturally, your name came up.

support of white nationalism, fascism, child abuse, genocide, ethnic cleansing, Donald Trump, any of the above.

adios, there is no clever to way to positively frame arguments in favor of putting children in concentration camps as political hostages. It is abhorrent and evil, and you should be truly ashamed as a human being for even trying.