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Why was RedManPlus banned?  Is it temporary? Why was RedManPlus banned?  Is it temporary?

04-03-2012 , 08:01 PM
He is far and away one of the most consistently entertaining 2+2 posters, especially in BFI/Politics/NVG.

It would be a shame if this were permanent. Please reconsider if it was.

This is a disconcerting trend on 2+2, some of my favorite posters have been given perm bans by mods. Limon was a good example, though his ban was ultimately reversed for being overzealous in nature.

RedMan has a lot of fans, and a lot of haters ... who was the mod who banned him and why?
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04-03-2012 , 08:15 PM
I can tell you that he's not showing up on the short term ban list, so I assume the ban is permanent.

The official reason listed for the permanent ban is: [Conspiritarding on a gimmick to try and avoid a ban.]

If the mod who actually issued the ban has any comments, I'm sure he'll chime in.
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04-03-2012 , 09:01 PM
conspiritarding???? sounds like politics to me........

MrWookie, ElliotR ..... Please stand up, please stand up
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04-03-2012 , 09:22 PM
I banned him. He got a temp-ban for going full ****** into theories about Barack Obama forging his birth certificate. After the ban, he came back on a gimmick account and posted the same crap, apparently hoping that I wouldn't notice? The guy was already up to his eyeballs in infraction points for racism, sexism, and homophobia. Yeah, he could be amusing sometimes, but he's no longer welcome here.
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04-03-2012 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whupthattrick
He is far and away one of the most consistently entertaining 2+2 posters, especially in BFI/Politics/NVG.
Well that's not true at all.
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04-03-2012 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
Well that's not true at all.
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04-03-2012 , 10:42 PM
I always hated RedManPlus ...
always disagreed with everything he said ...
he was always talking out of his ass ...
and would never respond to you ...
also, his style of posting was really annoying ...
RIP RedMan, now you'll have more time to expose that forgery ...
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04-03-2012 , 11:30 PM
I guess about what I expected. Certainly fits in w/ the times - if you dislike or disagree w/ someone and control the platform - silence them. Liberals used to stand for more than just being the gatekeeper of what was acceptable speech or not, sad.
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04-03-2012 , 11:43 PM
You sure have a strong opinion about a ban when you didn't even know what it was for, what forum it happened in, or who banned him. Kind of hard to take criticism like that seriously.
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04-04-2012 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by whupthattrick
I guess about what I expected. Certainly fits in w/ the times - if you dislike or disagree w/ someone and control the platform - silence them. Liberals used to stand for more than just being the gatekeeper of what was acceptable speech or not, sad.
lol. I guess you missed the racist homophobic part of my boy wookies post. Librul mod!!!!!!! Wookie is the man and he is pretty tolerant. He does a bang up job in politics. Sure, he's a librul Obama lover but don't hold it against him. He loves the conservatives that post there as well.

This isn't Nam whupthattrick, there are rules.

Also Wook, can we see the posts that got him banned???
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04-04-2012 , 12:19 AM
Wookie confirmed great mod.
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04-04-2012 , 12:43 AM
I didn't miss the allegation of racism, homophobic, etc. Frankly, that smear is so often conflated w/ someone who holds conservative/Christian or just contrarian beliefs it's lost a lot of it's meaning.

In fairness to Wookie, since he brought it up, I think it's also fair to see specific examples of each (racism, sexism, homophobia) posted here, especially since it seems to factor into his decision to perma-ban.

Something he should also consider, which was brought up in Limon's ban is whether a ban should be sitewide just b/c one mod can't stomach a particular user in the forum they control. Why not just ban him there?

And I get that this is a place of business, this isn't a constitutional issue about free speech, yada, yada ... but at 1 time this site was certainly more tolerant than it's become.

Since RM+ can't defend himself, I'll quote him from the archives:

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Mr. Sklansky has made this forum a bastion of free speech...
And you don't like it.

There can be a fine line between being a mod...
And being an ** angry stalker **.
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04-04-2012 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by whupthattrick
I think it's also fair to see specific examples of each (racism, sexism, homophobia) posted here, especially since it seems to factor into his decision to perma-ban.
Request denied.
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04-04-2012 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Request denied.
Like a boss.
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04-04-2012 , 01:04 AM
Le forum, c'est moi

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04-04-2012 , 01:16 AM
lookin good Wookie!
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04-04-2012 , 03:05 AM
dem heels
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04-04-2012 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I banned him. He got a temp-ban for going full ****** into theories about Barack Obama forging his birth certificate. After the ban, he came back on a gimmick account and posted the same crap, apparently hoping that I wouldn't notice? The guy was already up to his eyeballs in infraction points for racism, sexism, and homophobia. Yeah, he could be amusing sometimes, but he's no longer welcome here.




WP Wookie we do not need people getting stupid about crap around here, also no one likes a racist sexiest or a homophobic person.
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04-04-2012 , 04:35 AM
I like sexiest people ...
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04-04-2012 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LirvA
I like sexiest people ...
Sharp eyes you have.
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04-04-2012 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LirvA
I always hated RedManPlus ...
always disagreed with everything he said ...
he was always talking out of his ass ...
and would never respond to you ...
also, his style of posting was really annoying ...
RIP RedMan, now you'll have more time to expose that forgery ...
came here looking for this

wp
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04-04-2012 , 10:12 AM
Unban redman+, but one of the conditions is he has to reply to every single person that quotes him.
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04-04-2012 , 03:10 PM
wtf is RM+'s avatar, btw? It's like a ben bernanke lookalike in drag I think
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04-04-2012 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Request denied.
Certainly what I expected, but I thought it would be fair to ask for it.

As commonplace as it is to smear people as racist, sexist, homophobic, etc, it's rarely ever supported by any evidence upon request. I guess it's just a 'sense' you have about someone, huh? It's just dirty pool.
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04-04-2012 , 04:16 PM
I have no idea what you think is going on here, you're making it seem like mods just randomly banned him then picked some reasons for it.

The reason we call him racist, homophobic, terrible etc is because we saw posts that were racist, homophobic etc and then deleted and infracted him for them, going back as far as 2008.

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Originally Posted by whupthattrick
I guess it's just a 'sense' you have about someone, huh? It's just dirty pool.
Yep, entirely the 'dirty pool'. Not in any way influenced by us being able to see his posts when they get reported, and he got reported a lot, or his user notes or his infractions. We're just out to get everyone for no reason.

It's not like it's a previously quiet poster, he's had a reputation for being horrible and dumb for ages. We apologies for not re-posting the racist posts that broke forum rules just to satisfy you though,

but if it's any
help, just imagine a regular
racist post, but
typed like this
instead.
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