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Old 02-16-2019, 06:59 PM   #1
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Template Attack

I'd like to bring it to the attention of the admin and players that this forum is victim of a cyber/template attack.

The template is a recreational player that favors the the unfair practices of sites like Poker Stars (ie when they reneged on the SN elite campaign effectively stealing from the "contractual obligations" that were entered into in good will) and the obviously net unfavorable changes that have pervaded major site policies like PS.

The template is easily identifiable because the policies are based on the assumption that the recreational player does not understand or care about rake but these players are self identified recreational players (most often with very little history or posts) that don't play for any want to win or try to play in a poker game that requires skill. This is a self inconsistent profile.

How many recreational players do you know that aren't trying to beat their opponents? How many of those players are adept at arguing for the poker site side in regard policies that themselves aren't concerned about an increase in the cost to play and a decrease in the bonuses that are offered?

In the years I have played poker I have known none. But on 2p2 forum this is a prevalent attitude by posters with less then 100 posts (and some longer time posters that do nothing but berate regs anti site positions as if they themselves aren't regs but have years of posting on this forum).

I'm not suggesting, for example, this is PS policy and they have injected shills. I can think of a number of far less conspiratorial reasons that this attack might be occurring.

Never the less it is an incredible tell when such a self inconsistent profile appears prolifically in any otherwise reasonable counter discussion to what are obviously seen as net unfair and/or undesirable changes to the game environment (many of which move the game of poker towards an unskilled variant which goes against why even losing players play poker and not jackpot games).
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:05 PM   #2
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Re: Template Attack

case study 1: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...1&postcount=35

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I don't think its me who's coming off as the vain one in this thread. RunitPony's grammar style alone reeks of someone with a self-serving ego.

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I'm starting to think you may be one of those guys who gets a little too focused on theory and statistics and somehow misses the forest for the trees when its slapping them right in the face.

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I totally understand your point of view, but beleive your response further confirms my inclination that you are probably a person who is quite socially inept, and has a lack of emotional intelligence which clouds their understanding

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I'm implying that YOU appear to be out of touch, and it makes sense how that may not be palatable to you- likely a dunning-kruger type situation occuring.

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The absolute mouth-breathing recs you probably played against who frequented your low stakes sit'n'gos when you were a rakeback pro

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I think OP should've been warned to stop dabbling with the hallucinogens before it took him to the point of no return

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I just took down a 1000 BB stp at 50PLO. 5 in preflop. hit a straight with A26T rainbow

Was lots of fun. I'll probably continue playing in these games even though I don't likely have an edge because I play too many hands pre.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...4&postcount=36
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:14 PM   #3
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Re: Template Attack

Does this player with 37 posts really understand rackback programs better than the regs that are having sincere discussions about them?
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Do you guys really not understand that more gambling is the actual point of spashed pots?
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=3621



This player when pressed and shown how i identified the self inconsistent nature of the other poster then identified as a pro. Perhaps they are a well known pro around here but just only have posted about 150 times. But notice the inconsistent view and the devotion to a program they later admit has no real significance and possibly is even not favorable even though they called me out for saying so:
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OP is far removed from reality(I didn't read the rest of the thread)

I've been playing on RIO since it launched and the biggest splash pot I've seen was 15bb.

Small splashes that occur majority of the time have nothing but positive effect on the game.

All these concerns you have are way exaggerated compared to what is actually happening.

And are you really that naive to think that someone would make business decisions without looking at data?
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...0&postcount=20

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You're whole concern with the impact of big STPs is exaggerated because they are not happening at any significant frequency. In fact they are so rare that they will not have any major impact either way. I haven't yet experienced a single "pre flop bingo", as you describe it.

I'm stating this based on my experience of playing on RIO since it launched. Joe Ingram has not played on RIO, I think you attribute more weight to his comments than he would himself. There are plenty of pros that actually played on RIO and love STP. Since you asked, I'm a pro player and while I had great reservations about the idea of STPs initially, after playing on RIO I clearly see what a great idea they are.

Note, I only play NL and my comments only relate to the great game of two card PLO. Maybe you are a PLO player and thus your concerns are different. I can see how impact of STPs in PLO might be much greater than in NL.
This self inconsistent attitude is everywhere in these threads.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:32 PM   #4
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I have a strong feeling 'RunItPony' is a user that was banned before. Killing people by boredom with walls of text is his signature.
This poster has made a mistake that it easily identifiable. They are referencing a poster that is seemingly quite obviously well before there time of being here 1 month.

This in itself could be just a poster that was lurking or was even previously banned (or accidentally locked form their account etc.) but if you check the context of the thread they are joining in the defense of the self inconsistent views of the posters that I highlighted, by way of attacking my character, and not at all speaking to the subject of thread.

This poster fits the template perfectly and I have asked them to state the player type they identify as and what there views on the policies I described are. Of course they won't contribute to such discussion.
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:30 PM   #5
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:35 PM   #6
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The posters on this forum are images of players that implicitly exist not the players themselves that are known to be actual irl players. I am asking about people you actually know that exist. I don't know any that are smart enough to explain the nuances of rakeback programs but who openly admit they will continue to make bad plays they know are bad because they simply identify as a rec.

Most recs (here I refer to long term losing or -ev players) are actually trying to make the best plays possible and those that are so bad they don't care do not know about the nuances of poker site policies and there effects on the workings of the game and player pools/player types.

Forums are very susceptible to sybil attacks and must be wary of them. It is why it is a call to the admin and (known human/existing/real) players rather than the mods.

I gave examples and there are countless more. The template is very prevalent and has been over the years.
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:55 PM   #7
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:56 PM   #8
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Re: Template Attack

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...1&postcount=49
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I like to see how players come together, but I do not understand, why do they protest now and not before? I mean that reducing the chest in half does not seem as serious as destroying the VIP system
There was a mass uprising when that happened.


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I'm just a recreational who would like to be pro someday, from my position it's easy to talk, but please get organized, the chests would never have arrived if the professionals were well organized
This players views and claims they are a rec that wants to be pros are self inconsistent.
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Old 02-16-2019, 08:57 PM   #9
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:25 PM   #10
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Re: Template Attack

A basic security question: if there was a concerted effort to propagate a template on this forum is there "back-end" procedures that would identify the efforts/attack? I think it would be possible for admin to verify if they were aware of the possibility.
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Old 02-16-2019, 09:34 PM   #11
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Re: Template Attack

If somebody saying "Yes" to your question would get you to stop posting, I will say "Yes".
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:29 PM   #12
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Thanks for alerting us to this issue. Whosnext and I are top of this and getting to the bottom of things and have performed some back-end procedures. It should be resolved now and templates have been restored.
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:52 PM   #13
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Re: Template Attack

Here is the template:
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man, I've already told you I'm a rec, what else do you want? ...
I just want the best for poker and professionals, even if I'm not one yet.

I have already said, to stop playing a tournament is not an effort, please stop talking about those rich guys as if they were martyrs for not playing a ****ing turbo tournament
Its a call to the admins not the mods. Nice trolling tho
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:55 PM   #14
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Re: Template Attack

Here is the template:
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Although I fully support some action against stars for screwing over the players continuously...

A lot of that list just want their name on it for egotistical reasons and wouldn't have played anyway.
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Old 02-16-2019, 11:00 PM   #15
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Re: Template Attack

Thanks gregorio and whosnext. I was concerned about psychopathic moderators drumming down this place.
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Old 02-17-2019, 12:16 AM   #16
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Re: Template Attack

I'll be back as the template. See if you can spot me.
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:52 AM   #17
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Here is the template:Its a call to the admins not the mods. Nice trolling tho
Oh hi, that's me. You had already drawn enough attention to yourself with your massive derail of the Stars boycott thread, but apparently that wasn't enough for you. Since you've put a call out to admins, I'll respond by correcting the tempban you received already.
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