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12-10-2017 , 12:46 AM
can someone link the post/s that got op banned?
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12-10-2017 , 12:48 AM
lifetime achievement award i think
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12-10-2017 , 12:49 AM
All 57,722?
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12-10-2017 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
can someone link the post/s that got op banned?
Yeah, I would be interested in this also. I haven't seen anything in this thread that would warrant a permaban. (it may have been deleted of course)
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12-10-2017 , 02:34 AM
There's only what, maybe 4 or 5 deplorables left now? Going to be hard to support an entire forum!
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12-10-2017 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Yeah, I would be interested in this also. I haven't seen anything in this thread that would warrant a permaban. (it may have been deleted of course)
Coming into thread and not only misrepresenting yourself and your beliefs but then having a good old fashioned whine about how you're being MISTREATED because everyone instantly sees that you are full of **** is banworthy. So is constant conspiratarding of the worst kind, including but not limited to Pizzagate trutherism.
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12-10-2017 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Yeah, I would be interested in this also. I haven't seen anything in this thread that would warrant a permaban. (it may have been deleted of course)
I think the 13 moderators who have flagged him and the 5 pages of user notes may have merited the lifetime achievement award 72off mentioned
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12-10-2017 , 04:21 AM
yes. for some reason, despite the multiple mods who felt he should be banned, nobody ever acted. this brilliant thread was started, the topic came up again in the mod forum and i said the following:

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
I don't know anything about VMF either. But his whining in atf is not impressive. If he is not particularly wanted anywhere, i don't care what anyone wants to do with him.
then somebody made a decision.
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12-10-2017 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Yeah, I would be interested in this also. I haven't seen anything in this thread that would warrant a permaban. (it may have been deleted of course)
Imagine thinking that going to bat for pizzagate and other conspiracies (pretty confident he was a sandy hook truther) in multiple forums, receiving infractions or verbal warnings from nearly every mod on site, being exiled from at least one forum is not enough of a reason to ban someone from an internet forum because they also got liberals mad.
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12-10-2017 , 05:45 AM
Don't think he was a Sandy Hook truther for whatever its worth. It's the one exception to otherwise complete acceptance of every right wing conspiracy on the planet.
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12-10-2017 , 05:51 AM
I really would have thought it was BitchiBee or VMF, but it was ShaneG and sup Hezbollah. The latter was pretty awful, the former didn't last too long once they started conspiritarding up threads.
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12-10-2017 , 05:55 AM
In P7 it was NoQuarter (too).
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12-10-2017 , 09:42 AM
That dude was never quite right, often seeming to border on the disingenuous. This thread struck me as a handy suicide-by-cop way to shuffle off 2p2's mortal coil. Vaya con Dios, muchacho!
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12-10-2017 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Loki
No. There was a poster in unchained named mongidi or something. People called him mong for short. Chez let us know that mong was un-PC because in the UK it’s a shortened form of mongoloid. I think usage dropped significantly after people were made aware of this. To my knowledge, none of the US posters were aware of this usage.
I think it's actually OK in that specific case
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12-10-2017 , 11:53 AM
I don't know. VMF always seemed fairly harmless to me, at least in all the posts that I saw.
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12-10-2017 , 12:36 PM
Shocking
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12-10-2017 , 12:59 PM
lol perfect.
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12-10-2017 , 01:02 PM
Admittedly I didn't see that many of his/her posts.
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12-10-2017 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
I think it's actually OK in that specific case
I didn't give anyone a hard time about it as it was a natural shortening of the name by posters who didn't realise it was offensive. Once informed, everyone was happy to comply iirc.

The harder part was with those who think it's fine to throw out sexist/ homophobic/etc insults.
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12-10-2017 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
What's that 3 letter slang word they use in the UK for cigarettes?
'Cig'. And the one you're thinking of doesn't have anything to do with American hostility to gay people. Whereas the American use of 'spaz' to indicate clumsiness or stupidity has everything to do with hostility to people with CP. (Who, of course, in American terms, are 'losers' and therefore worthy of contempt because they won't earn bundles and live in the right neighbourhoods.)

Even back in the Eighties, Billy Joel's 'Goodnight Saigon' was pretty startling to British ears, because of the lines, 'We came in spastic / Like tameless horses / We left in plastic / As numbered corpses.' The song is in the voice of a US Marine grunt from Vietnam, but those lines are not meant to be rough talk. Self-admiring US 'liberals' really do think such terms are acceptable. In Britain, since the 1970s, that kind of thing is mostly confined to school playground insults. In many lines of work it would be career-destroying.

The last person I ever heard using the term 'spaz' (or sometimes 'spasmoid') was the late Tory politician Alan Clark, and he was doing it to be obnoxious on purpose because he had this 'enfant terrible' reputation to live up to. And that was over 20 years ago, and Clark's long dead now, and I've literally never heard anyone talk like that from that day to this.

Last edited by 57 On Red; 12-10-2017 at 03:08 PM.
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12-10-2017 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
'Cig'. And the one you're thinking of doesn't have anything to do with American hostility to gay people. Whereas the American use of 'spaz' to indicate clumsiness or stupidity has everything to do with hostility to people with CP. (Who, of course, in American terms, are 'losers' and therefore worthy of contempt because they won't earn bundles and live in the right neighbourhoods.)

Even back in the Eighties, Billy Joel's 'Goodnight Saigon' was pretty startling to British ears, because of the lines, 'We came in spastic / Like tameless horses / We left in plastic / As numbered corpses.' The song is in the voice of a US Marine grunt from Vietnam, but those lines are not meant to be rough talk. Self-admiring US 'liberals' really do think such terms are acceptable. In Britain, since the 1970s, that kind of thing is mostly confined to school playground insults. In many lines of work it would be career-destroying.

The last person I ever heard using the term 'spaz' (or sometimes 'spasmoid') was the late Tory politician Alan Clark, and he was doing it to be obnoxious on purpose because he had this 'enfant terrible' reputation to live up to. And that was over 20 years ago, and Clark's long dead now, and I've literally never heard anyone talk like that from that day to this.
Again, no. I don't know why you keep trying to make this an ignorant/insensitive American issue. It isn't.

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
That's pretty ridiculous.

If, in a given country, a word was rarely, or never, used as a derogatory term for those with a disability, people from there would have no idea that others would find it offensive. It ha nothing to do with acceptance of bigotry, and certainly nothing to do with who anyone voted for - most people in North America would have no idea that word would be offensive to those with CP.

Edit to add: I think time is a factor as well. Its meaning and usage has changed a lot over time, especially on this side of the pond.
Just because it is commonly associated with an insult of those with CP today in one part of the world doesn't mean it is elsewhere.

I'm not disputing the origin of the word, but many people over here only understand and use it like this:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/spaz
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12-10-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Tiger Woods landed in hot water after he made this comment in a post-round interview with CBS at the Masters Tournament:

I was so in control from tee to green, the best I've played for years... But as soon as I got on the green I was a spaz.

Tiger's use of spaz, an epithet derived from spastic, caused nary a ripple in the U.S., but when it hit British newspapers there was a significant uproar. "Extraordinarily insensitive," said Lewine Mair in The Telegraph. "Woods sure to regret remark," read the headline in The Scotsman. "Some interpreted this as a grievous insult to handicapped people all over the world," said The Independent. "I don't think he meant to be that offensive but it's something nobody in his position should be saying," Paralympian Dame Tanni Grey Thompson told the BBC.

Tiger quickly apologized, saying through a spokesman that he "meant nothing derogatory to any person or persons and apologizes for any offense caused." But it's doubtful that he realized he had anything to apologize for until the firestorm in the British press. So how did the word spaz become innocuous playground slang in the U.S. but a grave insult in the U.K.?
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/myl/langua...es/003020.html
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12-10-2017 , 04:15 PM
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12-11-2017 , 02:14 AM
Variance imo
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