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Old 07-27-2021, 08:46 PM   #26
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I saw your other post, and just wanted to say you have my support. When I read this thread the first time, of course I agreed with you but didn't feel the need to speak up since other people already had. But now that you've talked about your identity and how personal this issue is for you, I wish I would have. If you stick around, I hope everyone will be more considerate in the future and create an environment where you feel welcome all the time.
thanks shuffle i appreciate that!

those recent racist jokes in the other thread were hurtful
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Old 07-27-2021, 08:50 PM   #27
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actually... it's not just the racist jokes that are hurtful, but it's also that the community doesn't seem to mind that the racist jokes are written.

like if people spoke up and condemned that kind of thing, then it wouldn't bother me so much

let me go find the racist joke and quote it here....
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Old 07-27-2021, 08:52 PM   #28
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Is "Redskins" now prohibited on 2p2? I have reservations about that notion.
i didn't even bother reporting it because i felt like nothing would be done
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Old 07-27-2021, 09:07 PM   #29
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I reported both posts (there was another one right below the one you quoted that I thought you might also take offense to, but perhaps I'm mistaken) and suggest you and anyone else who agrees also report those post(s).
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:58 AM   #31
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Re: racist user name

BTW, the poster was quite amenable to the name being changed, which has been done.

On a somewhat related note I've always been quite intrigued, and maybe somewhat puzzled, by the differences in the language used to refer to indigenous people in the US and Canada. "Native American" and especially "American Indian" seem so bizarrely out of touch, or worse. But then I see organizations like:

https://www.ncai.org/

And I'm left wondering - is this a matter of it truly being no big deal to (or even accepted by) indigenous people in the US, or is it more of a grudging acceptance because there are bigger battles to fight?
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Old 07-28-2021, 02:05 AM   #32
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glad to hear the poster was amenable to the name change.


tldr: some people think it's a big deal, some don't.



also, thanks for the question. the answer is some people don't like being called indian, and some people prefer it lol. there is the whole spectrum.

in my personal experience it's fairly commonly used by people within the community, but less liked when people outside the community use it. but i think it's fairly rare that people feel that strongly about in one or the way other.

it's almost always best to use specific tribe if you know it, like apache, lakota, navajo, etc but even then you can still sometimes get into trouble because the names are often colonizer names. like navajo comes from spanish. "dine" pronounced din eh is what they call themselves in their own language.... i think.

i think indigenous is the safest, then native.
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Old 07-28-2021, 02:36 AM   #33
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Very interesting - thanks!

The term that is being left behind here is aboriginal, in favour of indigenous. I think First Nations is also considered acceptable, and similarly to what you mentioned, the names of the actual nations. But that's just my white guy outsider understanding of it all.

Native is an interesting one. I'm a little surprised it hasn't been discouraged, as it feels like a real colonizer term, and patronizing, depending on its use. "The natives are getting restless" comes to mind. But again, that's from my limited outside perspective.
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Old 07-28-2021, 03:15 AM   #34
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yeah, my guess is that aboriginal has been kinda taken by people indigenous to australia. i mean i don't even know what they're called! all i know is aborigine

if you're interested in the modern day indigenous experience, there is a podcast. i highly recommend just listening to season 2. it's about a cree family from Saskatchewan. the kids are taken, and one is missing

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcas...d-finding-cleo

skip season 1. it's a totally different story.
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Old 07-28-2021, 03:39 AM   #35
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Will have a listen one day, thanks.
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