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10-17-2014 , 07:14 AM


After an appeal to Mat a few weeks ago, he kindly told me that posting here to drum up support was my only recourse, as he doesn't overrule bans unilaterally. So here goes. ...

I've been banned from the main politics forum for 3.5 years, yet I keep having my name conjured up in forums I'm not allowed to contribute in. Clearly there is demand -- both critics and supporters -- and I'd like to humbly return to the main PoFo.

Now, surely, I can take my advocacy elsewhere, and do. But this forum is unique for a number of reasons, most notably its diverse cross section of views, as well as the adherence to probability and tendency by most. ... . About 15 months ago I was granted PU status as a trial to see if I'm worthy. Because, you know, there's no place like Unchained to show you can play nice with others.

Unchained is officially a cesspool now, and honest discussion of world events with any depth dried up months ago.

Anyhow, the reasons given for my banning back then were that I was surly to others, but also that I "make everything about peak oil." ... The latter is patently false, though I do admit it's a recurring theme when it truly fits the subject matter.

So, for what it's worth, I disagree with those accusations ... at least in terms of fairness re: what the main forum was like back then. I could get into endless tl;dr specifics, but does anyone familiar with my contributions really believe I'm in the bottom, say, 35th percentile on the behavior scale? Do we "remember the Main" before UC? Honesty, please. Were ACists banned for bringing up AC on a daily basis? ... Sorry, but if you created a 5,000-post thread about Iraq, does it sprain one's eyes to see that 10 of those posts remind the forum that oil was a major agenda?... My fault, I guess.

Meanwhile, I never trolled. I never spammed. I never lofted racist bile. I sourced my claims, I wrote clearly, I answered all the questions/challenges I could, I kept it pithy the vast majority of the time, and I held fire until fired upon (which was often), and usually held fire still.

My contention is that the real reason I became anathema there is because I confidently reject the idea of infinite growth on a finite planet. In fact, words to that affect were PM'd to me more than once. And before anyone asks: Reasonable appeals -- including adhering to one-thread self-containment status -- to the mod in question has been met with such toxic reaction as to be at risk of a perma for even asking.

My map of how the world operates is (curiously) unique here ... yet all easily verifiable and the specifics of my thesis (if anyone is being honest about what I've ever put forth) are far from "out there." Yes, hard truths come with it. Ranting about global net energy decline and U.S.-sponored drug proliferation rankles many. I can't apologize for that. I've gotten a few prognostications "technically" wrong, and even less "flat" wrong, but far more vindicated. Regardless, being wrong here and there (in terms of time frame, if nothing else) - those are the pitfalls associated with taking risk, and facilitating discussion, rather than sitting back and being a petty critic like so many there. I embrace those discussions and the pushback that comes with being a muckraker. It's my trade, and forums like these my practice field.
10-17-2014 , 08:26 AM
Let me read all this and get back to you
10-17-2014 , 08:58 AM
OP, you posted a ten incher
10-17-2014 , 09:20 AM
i dont know or care about any of this but i do like the braveheart.
so you get a yea from me
10-17-2014 , 09:49 AM
Jiggs is a conspiracy whackjob, makes everything about PEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAKKKKK EEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, and craps his pantaloons whenever someone hits him with an FYP.

10-17-2014 , 09:56 AM
Yes.

If ikes and other dumb dumbs can post freely in Politics then why not?
10-17-2014 , 10:07 AM
OP, while I only lurk in Pol and PU (Unhinged?), I will say that your point probably could have been made more effectively by not going into that particular topic, especially in the very thread that you want to convince people that you are a changed man.

Perhaps a new focus is in order for awhile...

I like the Braveheart reference though.
10-17-2014 , 11:11 AM
Who do you think orchestrated 9/11? Did the US government knowingly allow it to happen?
10-17-2014 , 11:14 AM
OH SNAP.
10-17-2014 , 11:29 AM
Your name has come up in one thread back in February about getting you unbanned and 5 other posts in the last year. You don't seem to be much of a hot topic considering how busy politics is.

Nice Braveheart reference though.
10-17-2014 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
OP, you posted a ten incher
I don't EVEN want to know what you used to measure.
10-17-2014 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Who do you think orchestrated 9/11? Did the US government knowingly allow it to happen?
Whoever made the calendar allowed 9/11 happen as it happens every year.

Last edited by Doc T River; 10-17-2014 at 11:36 AM. Reason: Oh, THAT 9/11.
10-17-2014 , 11:54 AM
lol politics. what a waste of breathe.
10-17-2014 , 12:19 PM
PoFo? That's a ban worthy offense right there.
10-17-2014 , 01:48 PM
ban OP
10-17-2014 , 01:59 PM
MrWookie says he is never wrong and admits it proudly to the detriment of more posters than just Jiggs.

Free Jiggs, Ban MrWookie. We need human mods, not those who irrationally claim perfection and who's most common communication method is that of Nelson Muntz.
10-17-2014 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
Unchained is officially a cesspool now, and honest discussion of world events with any depth dried up months ago.
Why don't you start the thread? You can even mod it how you like to get rid of people derailing your conversation? Are there people that you want to discuss this with in politics who don't post in PU?

That being said, I don't see why you should be banned from Politics.
10-17-2014 , 03:27 PM
He should prove his worth in a steel cage match, brother. There's no place to hide in the steel cage, man, it's the ultimate test of a real warrior's heart.
10-17-2014 , 03:37 PM
or is it the real test of an ultimate warrior's heart?
10-17-2014 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
or is it the real test of an ultimate warrior's heart?
Too soon, brother. Too soon.
10-17-2014 , 04:21 PM
lol, what kind of person begs to be allowed back into Politics.
10-17-2014 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
lol, what kind of person begs to be allowed back into Politics.
Considering FlyWf can still post in Politics, I think there is more than one principle to the matter.

I, for one, have been boycotting posting in politics indefinitely in a no longer silent protest of MrWookies poor reasoning and self-asserted infallibility. Plus, I cannot defend myself equitably against the attacks he allows. It is a totally rigged game. Thank goodness for P.U.
10-17-2014 , 05:55 PM
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Anyhow, the reasons given for my banning back then were that I was surly to others, but also that I "make everything about peak oil." ... The latter is patently false, though I do admit it's a recurring theme when it truly fits the subject matter.


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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Free Jiggs, Ban MrWookie. We need human mods, not those who irrationally claim perfection and who's most common communication method is that of Nelson Muntz.
The Wookie is politics (sadly). This will never happen.
10-17-2014 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
lol, what kind of person begs to be allowed back into Politics.
Crazy, isn't it?
10-17-2014 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
I embrace those discussions and the pushback that comes with being a muckraker. It's my trade, and forums like these my practice field.
I would like to know more about this part.

      
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