Did you not understand his first two replies? Your suggestion is horrible and wrong.

cute

In RGT that would be "Your conclusions are fallacious and heretical".

Anyone who has their post deleted knows that it contained something inappropriate - or it wouldn't have been deleted, no? If they're not sure what was inappropriate, they can PM the mod.

Blah. Just admit you love being dicks.

I don't know what else to tell you; it seems the only way you would be convinced is if I sat you down next to me and showed you how it all works. I've been doing this for a few years, and I can promise you it would be a huge PITA to send a PM every time we deleted a post, and for very little benefit. And again, where does the supermod fit into this?

I think I understand your overall point here - I'm sure there are times when a post is deleted and the poster is genuinely at a loss as to why that is, and I'm sure that's frustrating. But the vast majority of the time, it should be quite apparent, and a good number of those times the poster does get a PM with their infraction. Unfortunately, your solution is pretty much unworkable.

I fail to see how I'm being a dick or what this has to do with anything I've said to VP$IP.

Yes. This is the RGT/Jibninja thread, not NVG.

And keep in mind that RGT gets *maybe* 10% of the traffic that NVG does, so it's not really fair to compare the workload of NVG mods to that of RGT's mods.

At the very least, if Jib had to PM posters whose posts he had deleted, it might make him think twice about playing so fast and loose with the delete button.

Untrue.

I like where your head is at here - I honestly do - but it's just way too much work to engage someone about every post deletion. Because what will happen a decent percentage of the time is the person will get butthurt and will argue about it which could lead to a rather lengthy exchange involving the deletion of a single post. Which let's face it, unless it's an epic post or an often-bumped thread, once a few days or a bunch of newer posts happen it's all but buried on the internet forever.

(Although one comic aspect of implementation of your rule would be Dids, because not only does he post about how he hates PMs and can't be bothered with them, but he also deletes posts by the hundreds, so he would literally be PMing all day and night or would be forced to delete less. Which is basically a win either way.)

Also, supermods don't have jurisdiction or whatever over a regular mod, their purpose is to delete necessary things out of forum as needed. No point in getting them involved.

☒ Thy will be done, in RGT as it is in NVG.

Mods are the ground level arbiters of what is and isn't appropriate. So, true.

I'm sure he meant that those of us who have had posts deleted don't always know what it is about them that made them inappropriate.

Which is covered by the sentence following the one he quoted.

Tuq said it better than me. And for the comments about this being about RGT, not NVG, I understood the proposal being for the forums as a whole, not RGT alone. If you want that for RGT, now you're talking about the admins imposing a rule on RGT mods, so they're the ones you'd need to talk to, and I wish you good luck with that. You'll need it.

If a loony moderator creates a rule against capital letters I'm not going to follow it and I think it would be incredibly silly to say that it would be okay that all my posts get deleted because an intellectual peon deemed them "inappropriate" in that regard.

If schmiff. Don't like it, you know where the door is.

Yeah thanks I also know where the forum is to try to get bad rules changed. But since Mat unexpectedly stopped listening to people's complaints after having only the very first one addressed, I admit the door looks like the best option now.

The same pattern do oft repeat itself:

1. Troll do bad.

2. Mod whack troll 2 or 3 times with yardstick.

3. Troll run to start ATF bitch thread.

[ ] people having serious disagreements with Jib's religious views and moderating are necessarily trolls

[ ] post is a relevant reply to the post it quotes

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hi bobo,

Please cc me on all these deleted post PMs!

That might make more sense than CCing supermods.

If the CCs included all the pornography posts being deleted, that could be a new revenue stream for 2p2.

Awesome.

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Is there a way that a mod could lose modding powers via public sentiment?

I.e. perhaps there could be a public poll thread, and if a certain percentage of poasters, say 66%, vote the mod could be unmodded?