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Old 02-06-2017, 10:39 PM   #76
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Sounds like "it" goes well beyond the appropriateness of a new Miss POG thread (not that discussing that topic is unimportant). Sounds like there are moderation and moderator issues. And, relatedly, the overall civility of the forum's discourse.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:42 PM   #77
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To be honest, my impression has been that certain people have an agenda of controlling the outcome of this all via surreptitious means, or if victory seems fleeting, to take a piece of flesh with you. That piece of flesh obviously being MB, since he was the one who most openly supported the female posters who wanted this.
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The mods fighting is not the issue here. Its Miss Pog.

Stop conflating the two. That's also dishonest.
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I think there has been a concerted effort to deflect from the Miss Pog issue.
Seems like the worst paranoid trip ever. Whatever you do, make sure not to discuss pizza with VMF.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:46 PM   #78
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Thread about monkey bananas modding.
Makes tens of off topic posts.
"There is a concerted effort not to discuss the off topic posts."
Meanwhile never discussing monkey bananas modding - making an effort not to discuss them.

This is performance art.
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Old 02-06-2017, 11:05 PM   #79
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If you're upset about mod arguments spilling into threads, I would humbly suggest your issue lies with a different moderator than MB. Either way, the Miss Pog issue and the issue among the mods are separate things.
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Old 02-06-2017, 11:08 PM   #80
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If you're upset about mod arguments spilling into threads, I would humbly suggest your issue lies with a different moderator than MB.
I think I laid out 'my issue' pretty well in the OP but thanks.
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Either way, the Miss Pog issue and the issue among the mods are separate things.
So go discuss your wacko theories in the Ms POG issue thread.
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Old 02-06-2017, 11:43 PM   #81
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We are currently discussing whether it's sexist to hand out Ms POG awards. As it currently stands, some of these stricter mods are trying to kill off the event under the guise of it.
This is your OP. You have chosen to connect the content of that thread with the moderation therein, so I have every right to continue to correct the false narrative that's been spun in this thread by a certain set of posters.

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Old 02-07-2017, 12:41 AM   #82
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But the strongest opponents of it are a group of intolerant politically correct bullies that have gone out of their way to run people off that dont have their world view.
Well put. It's like Cambodia's killing fields all over again. Beware the zealotry of passionate social engineers!
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:08 AM   #83
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Fun thread. I vote for monkeys continued modship for my own reasons.
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Old 02-07-2017, 07:38 AM   #84
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I think there has been a concerted effort to deflect from the Miss Pog issue.

Others will have to discern for themselves. I've said my piece.
For the record. This is the second pog game in the last month that you've wanted banned.
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Old 02-07-2017, 07:50 AM   #85
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If you want to talk about the other game, where the creator decided to make every female character a whore/sex worker with limited game abilities, we can. I doubt this is the thread for it though.

Its certainly dishonest of you to insinuate that I was alone in my feelings when numerous other posters expressed the opinion that the game was not only sexist but racist as well, with a character called "cotton slave", also with limited game abilities. Several members abstained from playing the game because of this, and said so quite clearly.

Three of the four current moderators said they would not have allowed the content had they been more aware of it. So if anything, I was not vocal enough in that instance.

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Old 02-07-2017, 08:00 AM   #86
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I could have made that a lot shorter actually..

How about "Quit making ****ty games".
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:07 AM   #87
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I could have made that a lot shorter actually..

How about "Quit making ****ty games".
Who decides what a ****ty game is?

My point is that you want to be the moral compass of an entire forum, and remove anything and anyone that doesnt agree.
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:10 AM   #88
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And, I agree with the sentiment that it isn't just you. You've formed a coalition of folks that are systematically trying to purge the forum of people that arent in your clique.
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:14 AM   #89
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The players decide what a ****ty game is.

When people in a gaming forum won't play your game because it offends them, its safe to say they were ****ty games.
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:15 AM   #90
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The players decide what a ****ty game is.

When people in a gaming forum won't play your game because it offends them, its safe to say they were ****ty games.
The game ran.

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Old 02-07-2017, 08:20 AM   #91
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The game ran.
Ya obviously you would play again, you are more concerned about getting called racist, than not enabling offensive behavior
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:21 AM   #92
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And, I agree with the sentiment that it isn't just you. You've formed a coalition of folks that are systematically trying to purge the forum of people that arent in your clique.
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:29 AM   #93
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My point is that you want to be the moral compass of an entire forum, and remove anything and anyone that doesnt agree.
Keeping in mind that I know nothing about the game in question and thus am not judging (I have nothing to base any judgement on), I'm curious if you see a line between expressing a moral opinion about a game/thread/post and wanting to be the moral compass of an entire forum, and if so, where that is.
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Who decides what a ****ty game is?

My point is that you want to be the moral compass of an entire forum, and remove anything and anyone that doesnt agree.
Announcing a boycott of a game is hardly removing everything you do not agree with and no one has tried to purge people from POG. You are arguing so dishonestly.

No one even tried to remove gabes game, he just casually made racist/sexist comments and it hurt his recruiting for numbers and he did not get to use all the roles he created. Oh well.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:45 AM   #95
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Keeping in mind that I know nothing about the game in question and thus am not judging (I have nothing to base any judgement on), I'm curious if you see a line between expressing a moral opinion about a game/thread/post and wanting to be the moral compass of an entire forum, and if so, where that is.
I have nfc where that line is.

This is pretty complicated really. XN wants to treat this as an issue on an island but it isn't.

I've been a member of pog for quite a while now. I've always felt extremely welcome there. I mean, it's always been LOLPOG but for the most part it was individuals spatting about this or that. That dynamic has changed. There is a group now that wants anyone that isn't in their group out. One of them is a mod. I've been a constant target of insults by the same group that is pushing hard on these issues. There is no doubt that I am no longer welcome there.

So, I guess I'm pretty biased about the entire situation. It's difficult for me to separate things. I know it's wrong to not be unbiased but, you know, it's a little personal.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:57 AM   #96
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Bigger, I was a member of Pog years before you arrived. If something has changed since your arrival, that thing is not me.

There have been a few people in the Politics thread that have expressed their opinion that views you have posted there are both racist and sexist, a sentiment you did not take well. You are allowed to express your views there, and so are they. The "group" you have referenced is truthfully just a collection of people who have disagreed with your beliefs. However, those debates are what the Politics thread is there for. You may be too thin-skinned to handle the criticism.

Notably, I have been extremely generous to you throughout these exchanges, so I have no idea how you are bringing together those issues you have with people in the Politics thread calling you a racist and this issue at present with Miss Pog. I'm genuinely surprised you would try to make the issue about me when just two weeks ago you were complimenting me in that very thread on my conduct toward you.

I agree with you that you are biased.

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Old 02-07-2017, 10:20 AM   #97
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Here is your post to me in the Politics thread from January 27th.

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XN. Thats fair criticism. I shouldnt expect things from others if i cant do it myself. I do try, but certainly also fail.

And I'll add that I think the quality of your posting and your contribution to this forum has increased exponentially.

Thats supposed to be a compliment. Hope it came off that way.
I truly understand that your friends are involved in this Miss Pog controversy and you have loyalty to them. But if they jump off a bridge, you don't actually have to follow them.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:30 AM   #98
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Here is your post to me in the Politics thread from January 27th.



I truly understand that your friends are involved in this Miss Pog controversy and you have loyalty to them. But if they jump off a bridge, you don't actually have to follow them.
It has nothing to do with my friends. I dont even know that i have friends there. I can and do think for myself.
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Should I take that to mean your personal dispute with MB has caused you to engage in a lapse of good conscience at my expense? Because I was trying to assume the best in you.

My apologies if that was in error.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:47 AM   #100
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Should I take that to mean your personal dispute with MB has caused you to engage in a lapse of good conscience at my expense? Because I was trying to assume the best in you.

My apologies if that was in error.
I guess take whatever you want from it.

Sorry about bringing more LOLPOG here. My bad. I'll leave here too.
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