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02-24-2017 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Since the new mod is explicitly avoiding answering this question, and so far Chex and Mat have too, perhaps anyone can have a stab at it:

Why would anyone want to mod a forum they've never once visited and know nothing about?

why don't you send whosnext a pm and ask him? put me on the cclist. i'll be sure he'll give you an answer of some sort. though if his answer is to tell you to f yourself, that will satisfy my requirements.

why do you care so ****ing much? the guy is interested in being a mod. he made his case to chez and chez said yes. that's it that's the mother****ing answer you ****.
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02-25-2017 , 12:37 AM
We're talking about a guy who also volunteered to mod NVG. Clearly he has issues.
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02-25-2017 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
We're talking about a guy who also volunteered to mod NVG. Clearly he has issues.
and there are two people who post here, regularly, that have had sex with my mother. noodle wawa aand david sklansky.

i think they have bigger issues
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02-25-2017 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Since the new mod is explicitly avoiding answering this question
How have you asked him?

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
and so far Chex and Mat have too, perhaps anyone can have a stab at it:
Why would they answer for someone else's motivations?

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Why would anyone want to mod a forum they've never once visited and know nothing about?
The fact that you're now happy with anyone answering would seem to imply that you can't think of a single reason someone would do this. Is that really the case?

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Originally Posted by gregorio
We're talking about a guy who also volunteered to mod NVG. Clearly he has issues.
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
and there are two people who post here, regularly, that have had sex with my mother. noodle wawa aand david sklansky.

i think they have bigger issues
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Originally Posted by KingMedicine
you do make some good points
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02-25-2017 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
How have you asked him?

Two separate threads about moderation in a forum he now mods.


Why would they answer for someone else's motivations?

I assume at least one of the two of them talked to him about the decision and might have some insight.

The fact that you're now happy with anyone answering would seem to imply that you can't think of a single reason someone would do this. Is that really the case?

I don't really consider "he has issues" to be a valid response, and I'm not content with projecting answers onto others when I can simply ask them.
Answers in bold
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02-25-2017 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Two separate threads about moderation in a forum he now mods.
OK, now I'm curious what it is you're seeking overall for Politics 7.0. Having looked for your posts, I found this in one thread, from a few days ago, in response to a post from Mat:

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
I think you're confusing attacks with utter incomprehension.

Why would anyone want to mod a forum they've never so much as visited once?
Only one other person has posted in the thread since. And then this morning, you posted this in the other moderation thread:

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Is whosnext aware there's two mod threads?
So you've never asked whosnext directly, and you haven't even asked him in a thread since that one post was in response to Mat's. But even if you do consider that as having asked him, you have no idea if he's seen it. So how does this equate to:

"Since the new mod is explicitly avoiding answering this question"

I asked what it is you're seeking because you sure don't seem to want to be part of a solution to whatever problems there might be.

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I assume at least one of the two of them talked to him about the decision and might have some insight.
Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
I don't really consider "he has issues" to be a valid response, and I'm not content with projecting answers onto others when I can simply ask them.
This is why you'd like anyone to have a stab at it? Why would we want to project answers onto whosnext, when you could, for the first time, ask him directly yourself?
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02-25-2017 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
This is why you'd like anyone to have a stab at it? Why would we want to project answers onto whosnext, when you could, for the first time, ask him directly yourself?
To be fair, Low Key did ask the question in the P7 moderation thread and didn't receive an answer. I personally don't have a problem with some non-politics poster modding P7, though it's fair to wonder why anyone would subject themselves to such an ordeal.
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02-25-2017 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib


Why would anyone want to mod a forum they've never once visited and know nothing about?
Response in bold just in case you don't notice.

You can't assume this to be a certainty. And maybe, like others, he chooses not to interact with you. I was surprised Bobo even bothered.
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02-25-2017 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
To be fair, Low Key did ask the question in the P7 moderation thread and didn't receive an answer. I personally don't have a problem with some non-politics poster modding P7, though it's fair to wonder why anyone would subject themselves to such an ordeal.
Fair enough, it's just the way Noodle's going about it that I find off-putting. It reminds me of an exchange he had in this thread with Chez where he accused him of lying. Perhaps I'm too much of a nit about the language people use sometimes, but when there are valid points to be made about issues, I don't think it helps to exaggerate and/or make inaccurate claims in an attempt to bolster a position. It usually has the opposite effect anyway, like it is on me here, where I'm no longer giving much credibility in this thread to a guy who I thought was normally a pretty reasonable poster.
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02-25-2017 , 02:13 AM
I'm not entirely sure why bobo is getting so wound up about someone asking a simple question and being confused about why the question is being avoided.

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Originally Posted by R*R
In bold

You can't say this for certain.
Those are basically his words, not mine.

If you don't realize that, then you're not really following along and I'm left wondering why you feel the need to interject on an issue you aren't familiar with.
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02-25-2017 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
I'm not entirely sure why bobo is getting so wound up about someone asking a simple question and being confused about why the question is being avoided.



Those are basically his words, not mine.

If you don't realize that, then you're not really following along and I'm left wondering why you feel the need to interject on an issue you aren't familiar with.
Basically?

To be honest I think it is you being avoided rather than the question.
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02-25-2017 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Fair enough, it's just the way Noodle's going about it that I find off-putting. It reminds me of an exchange he had in this thread with Chez where he accused him of lying.
Ay yo, Chez did in fact demonstrably lie? Like, Noodle presented evidence of this ITT, you can go back and rewind the tape?

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If you don't realize that, then you're not really following along and I'm left wondering why you feel the need to interject on an issue you aren't familiar with.
Ya, there's a long two-year backstory to all of this. You're not really in this hand, dude.
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02-25-2017 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
no ill feelings or offense meant, but we didn't agree on the point of that forum.

i wanted a virtually un-moderated space, and you moderated the **** out of it. i chalk that up to miscommunication. now that unchained is dead and buried, chez and whosnext might actually welcome your help. that would be between you and them.
You would let Kerowo mod again after that **** show. The first step is to admit you have drinking problem.
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02-25-2017 , 02:23 AM
Trolly. The tape is so clear it's embarrassing for you to keep going on about it.

You're not in a place now where having an issue with someone means whatever you make up counts as a fact.
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02-25-2017 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Ay yo, Chez did in fact demonstrably lie? Like, Noodle presented evidence of this ITT, you can go back and rewind the tape?



Ya, there's a long two-year backstory to all of this. You're not really in this hand, dude.
Two years? Holy ****. And you're still in the hand?
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02-25-2017 , 02:27 AM
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Two years? Holy ****. And you're still in the hand?
I got the nuts, obv staying in it until the showdown.
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02-25-2017 , 02:28 AM
That game was over ages ago Trolly. You won but those cards are long dead now
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02-25-2017 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Since the new mod is explicitly avoiding answering this question, and so far Chex and Mat have too, perhaps anyone can have a stab at it:

Why would anyone want to mod a forum they've never once visited and know nothing about?
Aren't you glad to get in more people in Pv7.0, mods and regulars? It's more about technique for not pissing people off when you mod, I think (oops, I'm not a mod, what do I know...). He will have to get introduced though, slowly getting the right momentum, wish him good luck, he's gonna need it!

I have a feeling you will be communicating with him real soon

I think recent developments (Trump) has moved Pv7.0 away from being a harmless pie-throwing forum to something more serious. That can motivate some people.

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02-25-2017 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I got the nuts, obv staying in it until the showdown.
Just turn it face up and get it over with. No one likes a slow play. Or is there still one card to come?
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02-25-2017 , 03:01 AM
First, that question was never directly asked of me. Honestly, the question came off as like a high-school debating trick in which the asker was not at all interested in the answer.

Second, the overall tenor of the responses to the announcement that I was made a co-mod of the forum ranged from tepid to mildly hostile (of course, that was to be expected but it still is a bit off-putting when it happens).

Third, I visited Politics v7.0 numerous times over the years and much more frequently over the last few months since the change away from unchained. What I said in my introductory post was that I don't think I have ever posted in Politics v7.0.

That somebody can immediately think that a person who volunteers to mod a forum has never once visited the forum and knows nothing about the forum seems to me, quite truthfully, a bit wacky and insulting and stated solely to undermine the new mod from the outset.

Fourth, over the past month or so I have exchanged PM's with Chezlaw and Mat about the moderation of the Politics v7.0 forum. These exchanges will remain private. But the upshot was that in due course I volunteered to become a co-mod of the forum with Chezlaw. Chezlaw and Mat agreed to the idea. (As an aside, throughout the entire discussion, Chezlaw was 100% open to other's ideas on moderation of the forum, open to the idea of having a co-mod, and has graciously welcomed me as co-mod.)

And here we are.

Edit: I will cross-post this over in the main moderation Politics v7.0 thread as well.
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02-25-2017 , 03:11 AM
Good luck whosnext. I think you will do a great job much like you have done since you joined NVG as a mod.
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02-25-2017 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
First, that question was never directly asked of me. Honestly, the question came off as like a high-school debating trick in which the asker was not at all interested in the answer.

Second, the overall tenor of the responses to the announcement that I was made a co-mod of the forum ranged from tepid to mildly hostile (of course, that was to be expected but it still is a bit off-putting when it happens).

Third, I visited Politics v7.0 numerous times over the years and much more frequently over the last few months since the change away from unchained. What I said in my introductory post was that I don't think I have ever posted in Politics v7.0.

That somebody can immediately think that a person who volunteers to mod a forum has never once visited the forum and knows nothing about the forum seems to me, quite truthfully, a bit wacky and insulting and stated solely to undermine the new mod from the outset.

Fourth, over the past month or so I have exchanged PM's with Chezlaw and Mat about the moderation of the Politics v7.0 forum. These exchanges will remain private. But the upshot was that in due course I volunteered to become a co-mod of the forum with Chezlaw. Chezlaw and Mat agreed to the idea. (As an aside, throughout the entire discussion, Chezlaw was 100% open to other's ideas on moderation of the forum, open to the idea of having a co-mod, and has graciously welcomed me as co-mod.)

And here we are.

Edit: I will cross-post this over in the main moderation Politics v7.0 thread as well.
Seems like you could have actually answered Noodle's question instead of writing all of that?
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02-25-2017 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by R*R
Good luck whosnext. I think you will do a great job much like you have done since you joined NVG as a mod.
I don't want to make this about me, but thank you for that. And thanks to you and Bobo and anybody else who has been supportive in this thread.
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02-25-2017 , 03:19 AM
Tough crowd in that politics.
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02-25-2017 , 03:28 AM
I don't know why you would feel insulted when you are asked why you wanted to mod a forum you don't post in. Also I think a p7 reg should have been modded if Chez wanted help.
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